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Reply #15November 07, 2011, 11:58:56 am

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Re: New 82 Vanagon Diesel, ran out of fuel.. issues arised.
« Reply #15 on: November 07, 2011, 11:58:56 am »
Thank you muchly.. that was never clear to me.

Reply #16November 07, 2011, 01:00:59 pm

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Re: New 82 Vanagon Diesel, ran out of fuel.. issues arised.
« Reply #16 on: November 07, 2011, 01:00:59 pm »
Looks like he will be at least using the engine he just bought for a cam replacement.  Ouch that looks ugly.  But it may still work, what is the concencus on that? 

Reply #17November 07, 2011, 01:51:50 pm

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« Reply #17 on: November 07, 2011, 01:51:50 pm »
Well.. I found a replacement cam for $50. I'm just going to try putting that in before dismantling the other engine.

I have never tried removing a cam, learning as I go.. I've done clutches, head gaskets, etc, etc, without a hitch.. just learning.

Reply #18November 07, 2011, 04:11:22 pm

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Re: New 82 Vanagon Diesel, ran out of fuel.. issues arised.
« Reply #18 on: November 07, 2011, 04:11:22 pm »
Make sure you follow the proper procedure for tightening and removing the cam or you will snap it.

You could probably still use the cam that is in there but since you already bought another I'd swap it if the journals are in good shape.

Does anyone else think the oil looks weird?
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Reply #19November 07, 2011, 05:17:06 pm

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Re: New 82 Vanagon Diesel, ran out of fuel.. issues arised.
« Reply #19 on: November 07, 2011, 05:17:06 pm »
Oil looks on the tarry side to me.  But then doesn't it always look that way under those places on the cam? 

Reply #20November 07, 2011, 11:36:27 pm

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« Reply #20 on: November 07, 2011, 11:36:27 pm »
Get yourself a Bently manual and read before you beat on things. It will save you vast amounts of money.

As bad as it looks the break in the thrust face is not fatal, just ugly.

Reply #21November 09, 2011, 01:35:18 am

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« Reply #21 on: November 09, 2011, 01:35:18 am »
I already got the new cam in.. and I fab'd a timing belt tensioner tool at work. I'll give it a shot tomorrow and try getting everything back together.. Will post update.

Reply #22November 09, 2011, 11:28:17 am

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Re: New 82 Vanagon Diesel, ran out of fuel.. issues arised.
« Reply #22 on: November 09, 2011, 11:28:17 am »
Does anyone else think the oil looks weird?

Looks like it needs to get changed really bad, possibly even has coolant in it.
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Reply #23November 13, 2011, 10:09:37 pm

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Re: New 82 Vanagon Diesel, ran out of fuel.. issues arised.
« Reply #23 on: November 13, 2011, 10:09:37 pm »
Try charging the battery and THEN see if it will crank the motor fast enough to start. If not take it to Schmucks or AutoBone and have them load test it.

Reply #24November 16, 2011, 12:18:21 pm

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« Reply #24 on: November 16, 2011, 12:18:21 pm »
Well, here is a video of it running.
http://youtu.be/WGycgx82DSU
Idling, blowing smoke, rev blowing smoke, and stall failing to catch it's idle.

I redid the timing. Everything is right on check, the IP pump wasn't responding to turning it to advance/retard timing so I turned the IP pump sprocket back one tooth. Still running the same. Rotating the pump while idling doesn't make any noticeable changes in the timing. Still runs the same.

Reply #25November 16, 2011, 12:41:42 pm

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Re: New 82 Vanagon Diesel, ran out of fuel.. issues arised.
« Reply #25 on: November 16, 2011, 12:41:42 pm »
it ran previous of the issue tho. have you replaced the fuel filter, and cleared all the fuel lines of any restrictions?
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Reply #26November 16, 2011, 12:57:13 pm

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« Reply #26 on: November 16, 2011, 12:57:13 pm »
Replaced fuel filter, cracked all the lines ontop of the injectors and there is no air in the lines. One thing I have not tired yet is running diesel from jar to filter to pump though.

Edit: This is the way it's been running since I've had the van and I only have the PO's word on it running out of fuel and starting this issue. I was thinking that the timing might have jumped a tooth, but it still running the same.

I don't know how... but maybe my pump is 180 degrees out from PO? The description I found on a thread somewhere..

"If you were 180 out the engine would run but extremely roughly with a lot of smoke and very little power. "

...is exactly what I am experiencing.
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Reply #27November 16, 2011, 01:56:24 pm

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Re: New 82 Vanagon Diesel, ran out of fuel.. issues arised.
« Reply #27 on: November 16, 2011, 01:56:24 pm »
Is it definitely diesel in the tank?  Just one more thing to check on...
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Reply #28November 16, 2011, 02:06:11 pm

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« Reply #28 on: November 16, 2011, 02:06:11 pm »
Yep, when I cracked the lines making sure no air was in there it was definitely diesel.

Reply #29November 16, 2011, 02:11:08 pm

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Re: New 82 Vanagon Diesel, ran out of fuel.. issues arised.
« Reply #29 on: November 16, 2011, 02:11:08 pm »
Yep, when I cracked the lines making sure no air was in there it was definitely diesel.

that doesnt mean the feed or return line couldnt have a restriction tho.

sounds like a classic clogged feed line to the pump/filter to me..
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