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Reply #15November 12, 2010, 11:18:04 am

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Re: Quietening down a 1.6td
« Reply #15 on: November 12, 2010, 11:18:04 am »

   I have a caddy w/ a 1.6TD.  Currently is has the OEM hood pad plus I dynamated the hood.  I also put a rubber seal all the way around the edge of the hood.  Even with 2 muffler in series my caddy is still fairly loud.
I do have one of those TDI sound shield that go under the engine but haven't installed it yet.  Perhaps I can get to that this weekend on report back whether it makes a big difference or not.

Reply #16November 12, 2010, 03:33:00 pm

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« Reply #16 on: November 12, 2010, 03:33:00 pm »
They sell an OEM MK2 version on german ebay here:

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=250475311217&ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT

The lower engine bay cover may have also come stock on ECOdiesel Jettas in the US.

1991 Jetta GL ECOdiesel

Reply #17November 12, 2010, 05:56:04 pm

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« Reply #17 on: November 12, 2010, 05:56:04 pm »
I have seen a few belly pans on Canadian mk2 TDs
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Reply #18November 15, 2010, 09:55:50 am

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Re: Quietening down a 1.6td
« Reply #18 on: November 15, 2010, 09:55:50 am »

   I have a caddy w/ a 1.6TD.  Currently is has the OEM hood pad plus I dynamated the hood.  I also put a rubber seal all the way around the edge of the hood.  Even with 2 muffler in series my caddy is still fairly loud.
I do have one of those TDI sound shield that go under the engine but haven't installed it yet.  Perhaps I can get to that this weekend on report back whether it makes a big difference or not.

Park on some grass & get out & listen to the difference. The reflected noise is unreal.
1991 Vanagon 1.9 mTDI

Reply #19November 15, 2010, 10:32:24 am

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Re: Quietening down a 1.6td
« Reply #19 on: November 15, 2010, 10:32:24 am »
The TDI belly pan is an acoustical thing of beauty... it looks like the wall of a miniature recording studio,  with varied sizes and heights of dense acoustic foam cubes.  Between that and the top foam-lined engine cover there's a huge attenuation in sound.
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Reply #20November 15, 2010, 01:40:49 pm

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Re: Quietening down a 1.6td
« Reply #20 on: November 15, 2010, 01:40:49 pm »
The TDI belly pan is an acoustical thing of beauty... it looks like the wall of a miniature recording studio,  with varied sizes and heights of dense acoustic foam cubes.  Between that and the top foam-lined engine cover there's a huge attenuation in sound.

Where does it mount to? I wonder how much work it would be to put one on a mk2...

enough boost is when you have 3 dimple marks in the hood from the valve cover nuts..  ;D

Reply #21November 15, 2010, 01:56:58 pm

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Re: Quietening down a 1.6td
« Reply #21 on: November 15, 2010, 01:56:58 pm »
The TDI has two splash guards on the sides of the undercarriage as well... contoured to fit against the frame and then flat to provide a surface to mount the belly pan to.  Dunno how well they'd fit on a non-MK4 chassis... one might be able to snag a set from a junkyard as an experiment?
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Reply #22November 16, 2010, 08:00:09 am

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Re: Quietening down a 1.6td
« Reply #22 on: November 16, 2010, 08:00:09 am »
I have a newly built 1.6td that broke in and at idle and low criuse it seems loud as you can hear the clatter (especially now a 0°C or lower).  Under boost it quiets down nicely and a cruise you can't hear any clatter (about 2900 rpm) with good power.  I'm just concerned abit with the sound a low cruise.  Is this the way it should be?  Just wondering..
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96' 1.6 TD Golf, Giles pump, VNT 17, Gas changed to Diesel, Air to Water Int.

Reply #23November 17, 2010, 07:54:43 am

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« Reply #23 on: November 17, 2010, 07:54:43 am »
Does it sound like its powered by a gang of skeleton flamenco dancers?
 "Even in the luxurious S-class, the diesel was slow, smoky, and clattered as if powered by a gang of skeleton flamenco dancers. "
Automobile magazine

Reply #24November 17, 2010, 11:13:24 am

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Re: Quietening down a 1.6td
« Reply #24 on: November 17, 2010, 11:13:24 am »
What about mufflers? I've been looking at options to replace my cherry bomb to reduce highway drone, any thoughts? Magna flow has a SS option that'll fit nicely but I don't think they are particurly interested in quiet vs performance & sound.
1991 Vanagon 1.9 mTDI

Reply #25November 17, 2010, 11:39:28 am

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« Reply #25 on: November 17, 2010, 11:39:28 am »
blackdogvan - I have a magnaflow ss muffler I bought from summit that is striaght through ($70).  I think it's quiet unless your full on max boost gets a bit louder.  I like the fact it's straight through.  With 2.5 dia, I'm sure there's not much backpressure at all. (on the 96 golf with 1.6td)
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Reply #26November 21, 2010, 11:30:48 am

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« Reply #26 on: November 21, 2010, 11:30:48 am »
I had a Mangaflow on my gasser, absolutely loved the sound.  I've got a Grant on this one, also sounds fantastic.  I've got a heck of a lot more noise coming from under the hood than I do from the tailpipe either way...
Bryn

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Reply #27November 21, 2010, 11:55:17 pm

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« Reply #27 on: November 21, 2010, 11:55:17 pm »
I've got a heck of a lot more noise coming from under the hood than I do from the tailpipe either way...

Me too........I've got a thrush muffler.
'82 Rabbit, I put on a euro vnt-15, 2.25" DP, 2.5" exhaust, the result.....it whistled.

I removed the turbo, made a toilet bowl 2.5" DP, the result....it was deafening. Now it has a homemade muffler up front and a thrush in the rear, the result.....less loud.
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Reply #28November 22, 2010, 02:46:59 am

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Re: Quietening down a 1.6td
« Reply #28 on: November 22, 2010, 02:46:59 am »
I've got a heck of a lot more noise coming from under the hood than I do from the tailpipe either way...

Me too........I've got a thrush muffler.
Smear 'Canesten' on it then; also good for Athelete's Foot :o
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Reply #29November 22, 2010, 10:32:03 am

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Re: Quietening down a 1.6td
« Reply #29 on: November 22, 2010, 10:32:03 am »
I wonder about mufflers with f glass in them over time with soot build up...
1991 Vanagon 1.9 mTDI