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July 14, 2010, 11:43:55 am

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Anyone know how much power a stock sachs 200mm clutch is good for? Im not sure what clutch to buy. Im hoping to have around 100-120 wheel hp from my 1.6. I have seen people are using the clutchnet. Is there a kit that i can buy with the pressure plate and clutch and flywheel as one?

Reply #1July 14, 2010, 12:13:07 pm

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Re: turbo diesel clutch
« Reply #1 on: July 14, 2010, 12:13:07 pm »
Hello,

the d=200 mm clutch is good for nearly nothing. If you open the gearbox and have the clutch in front of you
take your opportunity to change to the 210mm clutch.

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VW Golf Mk1 (Typ 17) 1981 with 1.6 TD
BMW E28 524 TD

Reply #2July 14, 2010, 01:12:52 pm

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« Reply #2 on: July 14, 2010, 01:12:52 pm »
I agree that the 210mm clutch is superior. However, you will need to get a matching 210mm clutch, pressure plate and flywheel.
I ran into this issue. And because of that I have a recently machined (within 20 days) 200mm flywheel for $70 if you're interested in staying with the 200mm set up.
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Reply #3July 14, 2010, 01:34:23 pm

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« Reply #3 on: July 14, 2010, 01:34:23 pm »
I looked on clutchnet and they dont have anything for the diesels so what model do you put it?

Reply #4July 14, 2010, 01:37:26 pm

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« Reply #4 on: July 14, 2010, 01:37:26 pm »
I am running 16v pressure plate, 8v disc, and lightened flywheel - concept1 sells it as a kit

Reply #5July 14, 2010, 01:38:00 pm

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« Reply #5 on: July 14, 2010, 01:38:00 pm »
Bildon motor sports sells really nice ones if you don't mind waiting a month to get it...
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Reply #6July 14, 2010, 02:10:42 pm

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« Reply #6 on: July 14, 2010, 02:10:42 pm »
Bildon motor sports sells really nice ones if you don't mind waiting a month to get it...
did you get the 6 puck sprung 020 8v kit? What did you do for your flywheel?

Reply #7July 14, 2010, 02:48:56 pm

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« Reply #7 on: July 14, 2010, 02:48:56 pm »
I did.
I found a 210mm flywheel at a junk yard and had it resurfaced.
Almost any gas engine flywheel will be 210mm. I believe every 2.0L had a 210mm flywheel. but i may very well be wrong.
Bring a tape measure with you and measure there. it should be easy to tell.

Also. the 210's have 9 bolts and the 200's have 6 bolts that hold onto the pressure plate.
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Reply #8July 14, 2010, 02:52:13 pm

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« Reply #8 on: July 14, 2010, 02:52:13 pm »
you should see my pressure plate and clutch in this page here
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Reply #9July 14, 2010, 03:26:46 pm

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Re: turbo diesel clutch
« Reply #9 on: July 14, 2010, 03:26:46 pm »


clutchnet 6 puck sprung...all the # should be there for you. Basically anything 210mm with the small spline will work if you have the correct flywheel and pressure plate.

Reply #10July 14, 2010, 04:16:14 pm

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« Reply #10 on: July 14, 2010, 04:16:14 pm »
I think that bildon seems like the best deal cuz i dont have a whole bunch of money to spend on a clutch

Reply #11July 14, 2010, 09:42:59 pm

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Re: turbo diesel clutch
« Reply #11 on: July 14, 2010, 09:42:59 pm »
The timing marks on a 210mm gasser flywheel work with the diesel?

A strong pressure plate requires more pressure against the thrust bearing in the engine.

Pushing the clutch when you start it,
there is no oil pressure and little oil on the thrust bearings to protect them from the added pressure.

Might be better off with a stock pressure plate,
with a few more straps
and a 190mm 4-puck.
Tornado red, '91 Golf 4 door, with M-TDI 12mm pump, south bend clutch, VNT-15 turbo, 02A trany
MK4s: 2000 TDI jetta, 2003 TDI wagon, 2000 golf 2.0 gasser.
'84 Rabbit with 1.7TD KY block pistons bored to 80mm, VNT-15
'84 GTI with stock 1.6TD starion intercooler.

Reply #12July 15, 2010, 09:42:06 am

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« Reply #12 on: July 15, 2010, 09:42:06 am »
Is it really that bad for it? everyone on here seems to run the same type of setup

Reply #13July 15, 2010, 11:20:41 am

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Re: turbo diesel clutch
« Reply #13 on: July 15, 2010, 11:20:41 am »
The timing marks on a 210mm gasser flywheel work with the diesel?

A strong pressure plate requires more pressure against the thrust bearing in the engine.

Pushing the clutch when you start it,
there is no oil pressure and little oil on the thrust bearings to protect them from the added pressure.

Might be better off with a stock pressure plate,
with a few more straps
and a 190mm 4-puck.

just start the engine in neutral. then there is no load on the dry thrust bearing.

Reply #14July 16, 2010, 01:31:26 am

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Re: turbo diesel clutch
« Reply #14 on: July 16, 2010, 01:31:26 am »
Right, it's a good habit even without a stronger pressure plate..
Tornado red, '91 Golf 4 door, with M-TDI 12mm pump, south bend clutch, VNT-15 turbo, 02A trany
MK4s: 2000 TDI jetta, 2003 TDI wagon, 2000 golf 2.0 gasser.
'84 Rabbit with 1.7TD KY block pistons bored to 80mm, VNT-15
'84 GTI with stock 1.6TD starion intercooler.