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July 12, 2010, 04:05:47 pm

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About the VNT
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Why does everyone orgasm over a VNT?
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Reply #1July 12, 2010, 04:19:00 pm

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Re: About the VNT
« Reply #1 on: July 12, 2010, 04:19:00 pm »
Same reason everyone did for disc brakes when they came out.

Reply #2July 12, 2010, 04:44:46 pm

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Re: About the VNT
« Reply #2 on: July 12, 2010, 04:44:46 pm »
Same reason everyone did for disc brakes when they came out.
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Reply #3July 12, 2010, 04:47:11 pm

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Re: About the VNT
« Reply #3 on: July 12, 2010, 04:47:11 pm »
Same reason everyone did for disc brakes when they came out.

because they're both round?  ???
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Reply #4July 12, 2010, 06:48:44 pm

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Re: About the VNT
« Reply #4 on: July 12, 2010, 06:48:44 pm »
Why does everyone orgasm over a VNT?

Because in theory they should be the best of both worlds. Act like a small turbo at low speed and flow like a big one at high demand. Are they better? Yes, in part because the variable nozzle requires no wastegate so they have less back pressure that a wastegated fixed nozzle turbo. Are the the best thing since sliced bread? Probably not or everybody would be using one. Are they incrementally better? Without a doubt.

Reply #5July 12, 2010, 07:02:09 pm

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Re: About the VNT
« Reply #5 on: July 12, 2010, 07:02:09 pm »
How hard/realistic/beneficial is it to replace the stock turbo on a 1.6td with a vnt? other mods I have already done to my 1.6td are: ic, giles pump, 2.25" exhaust. been thinking about the vnt
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Reply #6July 12, 2010, 08:12:52 pm

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Re: About the VNT
« Reply #6 on: July 12, 2010, 08:12:52 pm »
MKII requires a custom rear engine mount...all would require a stand alone computer to run them or something like what libbybapa did with his VNT vanagon to control vanes.

Reply #7July 12, 2010, 08:37:22 pm

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Re: About the VNT
« Reply #7 on: July 12, 2010, 08:37:22 pm »
Same reason they put it on the TDI.
 It's better.
It's easy to install on a MK1.
Exhaust is even easier than the stock setup.
 It hangs down so there's room for a better intake,.. no fancy, high dollar intake needed to improve flow, a cheap gasser intake will do.
Plenty of power down low, no more waiting for 2000 RPM, and it still slips the clutch in 4th & 5th when pushing over 18psi. That's with a 1.5D, stock 190mm clutch.
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Reply #8July 13, 2010, 09:21:19 am

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Re: About the VNT
« Reply #8 on: July 13, 2010, 09:21:19 am »
Same reason they put it on the TDI.
 It's better.
It's easy to install on a MK1.
Exhaust is even easier than the stock setup.
 It hangs down so there's room for a better intake,.. no fancy, high dollar intake needed to improve flow, a cheap gasser intake will do.
Plenty of power down low, no more waiting for 2000 RPM, and it still slips the clutch in 4th & 5th when pushing over 18psi. That's with a 1.5D, stock 190mm clutch.


VNT LOVE!!!

im on my second VNT equipped engine, and i LOVE it. this one is a 1.6 n/a, just boosted. still even has a n/a pump on it. i honestly like the n/a pump better. spools the turbo faster it feels like..

Reply #9July 13, 2010, 02:59:24 pm

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Re: About the VNT
« Reply #9 on: July 13, 2010, 02:59:24 pm »
They are only better if they have the proper control on the vanes.
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Reply #10July 13, 2010, 03:39:42 pm

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Re: About the VNT
« Reply #10 on: July 13, 2010, 03:39:42 pm »
Seems practically impossible to use a VNT to it's potential without computer control.
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Reply #11July 13, 2010, 03:57:14 pm

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Re: About the VNT
« Reply #11 on: July 13, 2010, 03:57:14 pm »
Seems practically impossible to use a VNT to it's potential without computer control.

This has been gone over lots of other times.........use the search.
'82 Rabbit, I put on a euro vnt-15, 2.25" DP, 2.5" exhaust, the result.....it whistled.

I removed the turbo, made a toilet bowl 2.5" DP, the result....it was deafening. Now it has a homemade muffler up front and a thrush in the rear, the result.....less loud.
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Reply #12July 13, 2010, 04:18:01 pm

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Re: About the VNT
« Reply #12 on: July 13, 2010, 04:18:01 pm »
Wasn't a question, was stating the obvious.
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Reply #13July 13, 2010, 04:29:23 pm

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Re: About the VNT
« Reply #13 on: July 13, 2010, 04:29:23 pm »
Wasn't a question, was stating the obvious.

Ah, but if you search you'll find numerous threads describing mechanical control systems that do a very very fine job of VNT control, with no electronics required.   ;)
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Reply #14July 13, 2010, 05:40:30 pm

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Re: About the VNT
« Reply #14 on: July 13, 2010, 05:40:30 pm »
I have seen them, seems that to take full advantage of what a VNT can do, electronics would be needed.
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