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K24/T-3 Turbo - anygood??
by
ein bora
on 23 Feb, 2010 04:42
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How does the K24 compare to the K14 performance wise?? Presently I have the K14 but with a seized wastegate, I like the way it quickly spools and was wondering how the Borg Warner K24 or Garrett T-3 would compare.
Thanks.
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#1
by
Rabbit on Roids
on 23 Feb, 2010 08:56
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how would it compare to a K14? it wouldnt..
they are 2 completely different animals.
the K24 is about the same as a T3. slow spooling and pretty laggy. but there is potential for alot more boost in the upper RPM range. while your K14 will be all out of boost well before wide open throttle.
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#2
by
GEE-BEE
on 23 Feb, 2010 11:03
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Talk with jerry at GPOPSHOP.COM for your options
OHC exchange 395.00
GB
I would get a K14 if I was running your DP
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#3
by
ein bora
on 23 Feb, 2010 12:08
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With the giles pump I can easily exceed 20psi, however I do like the fast spool of the K14. Is there nothing out there that is an equivalent to the spool of the K14 but can handle 20 - 25psi??
And yes - it's a aaz. Thanks.
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#4
by
GEE-BEE
on 23 Feb, 2010 12:33
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K04/K03 HYBRID $$
That's what I did
GB
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#5
by
blackdogvan
on 23 Feb, 2010 13:18
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K04/K03 HYBRID $$
That's what I did
GB
Careful, you're talking a K03 cold side & K04 hotside. The upgrade K03 based hybrid most vendors sell is a Ko3 Hotside & K04 compressor wheel machined to fit the K03 coldside. Less lag & more boost on the K03 hotside option with more backpressure at high RPM (+3500). K03 coldside hybrid would be good for stock boost pressure with less restriction at high rpm & more lag? My personal feeling on the K03 cold side hybrid is its made from the parts no one wants from the proper K03 hybrid builds.
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#6
by
RabbitJockey
on 23 Feb, 2010 13:56
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i like the k24 and t3, they don't spool super fast, but they spool fast enough and always come on when you need them to. I think its interesting how they put that turbo on the little 1.6, it was really too big, but since it was too big it lets a lot of room for extra power with out changing anything other than fueling and boost.
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#7
by
GEE-BEE
on 23 Feb, 2010 15:02
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Mine is a KO4 Hot housing with a KO3 cold housing , ceramic coated housings and balanced shaft/wheel's
GPOPSHOP did very nice work...
The New head was sent to Extrude a hone for internal polishing ( internals are all matched and smooth as glass ).
My wrench just installed the head with new injectors and the Giles pump .
Next will be the PD130 that is still at extrude a hone and it will be installed with a new I.C.
GB
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#8
by
ein bora
on 23 Feb, 2010 16:08
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Hard to understand that there's nothing else out there that would work similar or better than the K14.
Regarding the VNT20 - can a VNT be installed on a IDI?
Thanks.
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#9
by
blackdogvan
on 23 Feb, 2010 16:19
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Hmmm.... Now who do I know with a VNT20 for sale... o right me.
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#10
by
stewardc
on 24 Feb, 2010 03:33
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I have a built AAZ and we decided on the T3. I couldn't be happier.
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#11
by
Familydiesel
on 25 Feb, 2010 08:09
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Isn't the T2 somewhat comparable to a K14? If not, what is the differnence? I have a T2 on my 1.6 and am just getting ready to install it, but haven't tried it, so it is just theory at this point. Anyone have experience with this?
Is the aaz pump give better performance than the standard 1.6 td IP?
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#12
by
CdnVWJunkie
on 25 Feb, 2010 10:37
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I know it's not a direct comparison but I had a e-AHU with a K24 with custom 2.5" DP. There was little to no noticeable lag. It pulled very hard. In a mechanical IDI I'm not sure the results would be the same.
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#13
by
VelocityConservation
on 25 Feb, 2010 20:03
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Ein Bora,
I have a k-24 on my 1.6l motor.
I have mine turned up to 15psi (not going any higher until I have a FMIC). It is laggy under 2200 rpm, but I am also pushing the wastegate open before 3200rpm.
I have really grown to like the way it works. If I short shift it I can keep the boost below 5psi and get 48-50mpg. I can also wring it out and open the wastegate before 3200 rpm.
I think it would respond even better with your bigger displacement motor.
VelocityConservation
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#14
by
ein bora
on 25 Feb, 2010 20:36
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Ended up buying a VNT20 for my build. Now that I understand the concept - I'm going to try and make the mechanical vane controller libbybapa designed.
As to my K14, today I ripped the engine out of my eurovan project - so my plans are to install it in there.
Like everyone else - lots to do, not enough time to do it in...