Clutch and transmission issues

[91redjetta]

sorry.. i just didn't know if you saw my whole ? was not trying to make you over work.. ha.. THANKS!

i'd say you got something on the clutch.. oil, coolant, diesel fuel.. anything and it won't help.. the trans input shaft seal could be leaking even?

16v clutch and 8v pressure are stock available stuff.. you can get fancy but i haven't needed too.. not saying there is not a need for it.. foxracer1 was a solid hub 200 from a air cooled beetle disc in his.. he was going to try a 6 puck but everyone said it was going to be too much of an on off switch.. no slip!

you weight the gas flywheels? i always wondered myself? which on did you weight though? the 210mm ones out of jetta three's and golf's three's are thicker up by the starter teeth.. thicker then even the regular diesel flywheels.. i figured it was heaver.. never got the scale out though.. that's the one i'm running.. the thick one.. lighter is better to rev it up.. but diesels are torque so i want to go with the whole rotating mass thing.. keep it heavy.. foxracer1 got a lighten 210 to put in his car.. we really cant tell to much of a difference? the dyno will tell..

[Rabbit on Roids]

the mk2 gasser flys are considerably lighter. i never got an actual weight, but hand in hand, the gasser fly is alot lighter. its got almost a half inch less metal on the engine side of the ring gear. the trans side looks just like a normal stock flywheel. and yes, it did make my engine very rev happy. my diesel has better throttle response than my gas GTI. with the exact same flywheel and stuff.

[MouseGTD]

16v clutch and 8v pressure are stock available stuff.. you can get fancy but i haven't needed too..

i've been trying to find more info on these clutches on the net but it's come up with mixed results, do all mk2 8v GTI's come with the 210mm clutch?

[truckinwagen]

yep, all mk2(and 1.8 mk1) gassers use a 210mm clutches.

[foxracer1]

I've had junk clutches. Springs in a new sachs 8v disc came apart driving on the high way. It tore up my trans and caused me headaches. Techtonics still has yet to take care of this for me.

I do burnouts here and there and if it can't take that i'll find something that will. Thats just how i drive. Stock replacement clutches are not up to the task to handle any built diesel.

A solid hub disc is actually smoother engaging than any sprung clutch i've used. The springs fully compress and rebound so quiclky due to the diesels vibrations making it chatter and it fatigues the springs and they fail.

I'm not sure how a puck clutch will act may be to harsh? Only one way to know.

[jack's lack]

I emailed clutchnet and told them my issues and setup. Hopefully they can make a suggestion.

I think I may buy that transmission and swap my .71 5th in it and then look for a LSD and hook it up with the ARP bolts
and go up to the larger driveshafts.

GB if you find another steal on a Peloquin or a Quaife LSD let me know please.

[foxracer1]

I think a 9a with a 3.89 final drive and the add on 6spd setup(rare i know) with a .71 6th would be sweet! Peloquin or a Quaife LSD and ARP bolt kit. Already got 100mm cvs.

1st-3.45; 2nd-2.12; 3rd-1.44; 4th-1.13; 5th-.89; 6th-.71

Nice close ratios and good up top.

Maybe a 3.67 with the .71 if i had a TDI or 1.9 AAZ.

[Rabbit on Roids]

I think a 9a with a 3.89 final drive and the add on 6spd setup(rare i know) with a .71 6th would be sweet! Peloquin or a Quaife LSD and ARP bolt kit. Already got 100mm cvs.

1st-3.45; 2nd-2.12; 3rd-1.44; 4th-1.13; 5th-.89; 6th-.71

Nice close ratios and good up top.

Maybe a 3.67 with the .71 if i had a TDI or 1.9 AAZ.

3.67 really isnt too bad with a .75 fifth. least i dont think so, i like it alot better than .89

[foxracer1]

I agree that what i have now. But a .71 eith a 3.67 would be to tall with my set up. Unless you drove 80+ mph. Now a 3.89 with a .71 would be very close to the same as the 3.67 with a .75 and yet the 3.89 would give a lower gears down low. I've always thought reverse was to tall too.

[Rabbit on Roids]

I agree that what i have now. But a .71 eith a 3.67 would be to tall with my set up. Unless you drove 80+ mph. Now a 3.89 with a .71 would be very close to the same as the 3.67 with a .75 and yet the 3.89 would give a lower gears down low. I've always thought reverse was to tall too.

reverse is way the F*** too tall... period. and it gets way worse with 3.67s.

[jack's lack]

I agree that what i have now. But a .71 eith a 3.67 would be to tall with my set up. Unless you drove 80+ mph. Now a 3.89 with a .71 would be very close to the same as the 3.67 with a .75 and yet the 3.89 would give a lower gears down low. I've always thought reverse was to tall too.

reverse is way the F*** too tall... period. and it gets way worse with 3.67s.

I had not considered this, and mine often shudders with my 3.89.
I still think .71 + 3.67 combo would be the stuff on the highway. It says E instead of 5 on the knob after all

[GEE-BEE]

I will keep you posted, Your first on my List !

GB

P.S .Ooh and it's no my *** list I might add !

[MouseGTD]

yep, all mk2(and 1.8 mk1) gassers use a 210mm clutches.

does any one know if the 16v fly wheels would work with the diesel engine and box?


i've just bought both 16v and 8v clutch kits to mix and match with the intention of using the fly wheel off my project 8v GTI, only to find out after pulling the engine and box that it only has a 200mm clutch fitted to it

[Rabbit on Roids]

it *SHOULD* work, but dont quote me on it. i used a 16v PP and 8v FW, but idk why you couldnt use the 16v FW.

how old of a GTI are you working with to have a 200mm clutch? something really old appearently. cause im pretty sure when the 1.8L engine came out, so did the 210 clutch.

[MouseGTD]

after a bit of searching i found that the 1.6 GTI engine came with a 200mm clutch and i can only assume that this is what this engine is that i have got. i got it from a mate who bought a car that had been converted to this engine and he was told it was a 1.8 so that was what i was assuming it was. i guess that's the risk you take when you buy an engine with no history.