Author Topic: My 96 Jetta 1.9L in Shop until Jan 4/10 Huge Tune up needed  (Read 4315 times)

December 28, 2009, 08:00:34 pm

Kworth 2007

  • User+

  • Offline
  • *

  • 36
My 96 Jetta 1.9L in Shop until Jan 4/10 Huge Tune up needed
« on: December 28, 2009, 08:00:34 pm »
Remember that new electric fuel pump, still works great, but weak glow plugs

booked it in to shop, it a IDI 1.9l with 300km on car

had to tow to the shop, no start

glow plugs,rail, hooked pump to solenoid fuel shut off,  checked timing belt out  3 notches Opp's

weak lower timing belt pulley (to crankshaft), new one, all seals, valve cover gasket.  runs like a dream in shop,on road. park for 2 hrs outside, weak start up.  tested injector pump, (weak), that on Dec 24 at 3 pm
nothing in Saskatoon for exchange.  this shop  closed for the hoildays until the 4th of Jan.

WOW my first used VW Diesel, I am married now to it.  I hope to make it thur winter months without a fender bender, I be losing money then. 

Look out Trans Canada hwy when it done.

Kworth2007  Saskatoon,SK

I run 0W40 in all my vehicles in winter

80 F150 5.8L (160KM)
97 F159 4.6L (320KM)
96 VW Jetta 1.9L (300KM)
99 Escort 2.0L (190KM)
JD 4510 Tractor (770 HRS)

96 Jetta 1.9L (AAZ) 5spd (300KM)
80 F150 5.8L(160KM)
99 Escort 2.0L 5 spd (190KM)

Reply #1December 29, 2009, 09:44:44 pm

maxfax

  • Veteran

  • Offline
  • ***

  • 2126
Re: My 96 Jetta 1.9L in Shop until Jan 4/10 Huge Tune up needed
« Reply #1 on: December 29, 2009, 09:44:44 pm »
Welcome to VW ownership..   ;D   It's not always that bad.. Just the first few years till you get the bugs worked out.  ::)

Reply #2January 02, 2010, 11:04:45 pm

Kworth 2007

  • User+

  • Offline
  • *

  • 36
Re: My 96 Jetta 1.9L in Shop until Jan 4/10 Huge Tune up needed
« Reply #2 on: January 02, 2010, 11:04:45 pm »
Hi Maxfax  I love the VW and diesel, Yes a used unit can have a few bugs to work out.

Some day a new one

thanks Kworth2007
96 Jetta 1.9L (AAZ) 5spd (300KM)
80 F150 5.8L(160KM)
99 Escort 2.0L 5 spd (190KM)

Reply #3January 03, 2010, 12:08:28 am

maxfax

  • Veteran

  • Offline
  • ***

  • 2126
Re: My 96 Jetta 1.9L in Shop until Jan 4/10 Huge Tune up needed
« Reply #3 on: January 03, 2010, 12:08:28 am »
Sadly so many of these buggers have been used, abused, and neglected..    I used to thing that someday I would have me a newer one..   But after changing an alt on an '03 TDI yesterday, I think I'll stick to my relics..

Reply #4January 03, 2010, 07:41:28 am

Rabbit on Roids

  • Guest
Re: My 96 Jetta 1.9L in Shop until Jan 4/10 Huge Tune up needed
« Reply #4 on: January 03, 2010, 07:41:28 am »
another thing, most TDI owners are un-aware there is actually a turbo on there engine, and are even more un-aware that you should cool the turbo down when you shut the ride off. most turbo cars suffer from cracked manifolds and wasted turbos. vnt cars always suffer from coked vanes.

Reply #5January 03, 2010, 06:12:46 pm

Kworth 2007

  • User+

  • Offline
  • *

  • 36
Re: My 96 Jetta 1.9L in Shop until Jan 4/10 Huge Tune up needed
« Reply #5 on: January 03, 2010, 06:12:46 pm »
Hi Rabbit

Thanks for the reminder, I am a trucker and drive it like a heavy hauler my VW, I like it cool down I had a used Freightliner Detroit turbo fly apart , during my road test for Over the road trucker in January fins all over the inside of the exhaust system.

One hell of a noise  and instant no Power with a load.

Anyone know if a high idle kit is available for a IDI VW??

I sold Ford Diesel pickup in the late 90's  and they had a idle kit on them  1350 rpm  min up to 1750 rpm

small computer inside the driver could set, Cold weather many bent push rods due to the cool engine on the top end, and the 15W40 oil.  warm up the truck, they thought and hit the highway and 2 to 5 miles a knock knock/loss power  opp's.  no warranty.

Awsome site for information.  Hoping Jan 4/10  It be ready to drive,spent over 4 month of fuel on my old F150 pickup to run to work for the 3 weeks it been layed up.

Kworth 2007   Saskatoon,SK

 
96 Jetta 1.9L (AAZ) 5spd (300KM)
80 F150 5.8L(160KM)
99 Escort 2.0L 5 spd (190KM)

Reply #6January 04, 2010, 07:17:54 am

Rabbit on Roids

  • Guest
Re: My 96 Jetta 1.9L in Shop until Jan 4/10 Huge Tune up needed
« Reply #6 on: January 04, 2010, 07:17:54 am »
another thing, most TDI owners are un-aware there is actually a turbo on there engine, and are even more un-aware that you should cool the turbo down when you shut the ride off. most turbo cars suffer from cracked manifolds and wasted turbos. vnt cars always suffer from coked vanes.

i wasnt directly aiming that at you, just the typical idiot turbo car owner that doesnt know any better.

Reply #7January 04, 2010, 11:45:48 am

Kworth 2007

  • User+

  • Offline
  • *

  • 36
Re: My 96 Jetta 1.9L in Shop until Jan 4/10 Huge Tune up needed
« Reply #7 on: January 04, 2010, 11:45:48 am »
Thanks Rabbit

I again thank you for the information,  my wife  has no clue on this VW that the scary part.

I explained the glow plug light, cold start cable.  she said it is much things to do to start the car.

I also was not trying to put you down on my last reply as well. I am straight to the point person.

Cory   Saskatoon,sk   -14'C with a small westly wind  brrrrrr
96 Jetta 1.9L (AAZ) 5spd (300KM)
80 F150 5.8L(160KM)
99 Escort 2.0L 5 spd (190KM)

Reply #8January 16, 2010, 09:08:33 am

Kworth 2007

  • User+

  • Offline
  • *

  • 36
Re: My 96 Jetta 1.9L in Shop until Jan 4/10 Huge Tune up needed
« Reply #8 on: January 16, 2010, 09:08:33 am »
I have Good news!  and Bad news!

the starting problem is a HUGE pain in my A_ _ !

glow plugs changed, installed new electric fuel pump after the filter, rebuilt the injection pump ( few seals check pressure), 4 New injectors, checked all timing marks, runs like shop SWEET

4 hours or more outside no start!  hmmm   what could it be!

1 & 2 cylinder had weak injectors  OK replace them after warm compression test

warm compression test was done prior to the pump & injectors getting changed out

COLD compression test on 1 & 2  less than 100 lbs each, FOUND the problem now

***more cash need to remove the head & check pistions and rings. OUCH!  Can't sell it like it is, give it to the garage for the long delay? It 's yours?  then drive what?

going week 5 without wheels, they were closed bewtween XMas * New years.

Anyone else having starting problems when car is cold, check the compression when cold & hot.




Willing to work Odd jobs to pay the bill, picking up trash from the ditches  anything.




Cory   Drive it like U stole it!!   YA
96 Jetta 1.9L (AAZ) 5spd (300KM)
80 F150 5.8L(160KM)
99 Escort 2.0L 5 spd (190KM)

Reply #9January 16, 2010, 09:30:06 am

Vincent Waldon

  • Global Moderator
  • Veteran

  • Offline
  • ***

  • 3255
    • My collection of HOWTOs
Re: My 96 Jetta 1.9L in Shop until Jan 4/10 Huge Tune up needed
« Reply #9 on: January 16, 2010, 09:30:06 am »
Completely agree... cold compression figures are a really important part of diagnosing cold start problems.  I've seen huge differences (75 psi or more) in a car's cold compression vs warm. And of course for a diesel "cold" is when we really need the help.

The challange is that VW doesn't post cold compression numbers... so it's tricky to know what normal looks like... which is why "warm" is  considered tried-and-true.
Vince

Edmonton, Alberta, Canada
2001 silver TDI Jetta Malone Stage 1.5 , 2001 blue TDI Jetta SBIII 216s Malone Stage 3, 1970 Bay Window bus

Gone but not forgotten: 1969/1971 Beetles, 1969/1974 Westies, 1979 Rabbit, 1986 TD Jetta, 1992 gas Jetta, 1994 TD Jetta

Reply #10January 16, 2010, 10:11:05 am

Kworth 2007

  • User+

  • Offline
  • *

  • 36
Re: My 96 Jetta 1.9L in Shop until Jan 4/10 Huge Tune up needed
« Reply #10 on: January 16, 2010, 10:11:05 am »
Vince

For sure now the shop looks foolish, and are willing to HELP me out on the labour and parts to get this out of the shop,

15 yrs in VW this tech been working on   again a different problem each time.

Labour book is quoting 10 hrs,  have a complete unit to drive hassle free form the next 300,000 km

Cory    Expensive birthday gift , no hang over!
96 Jetta 1.9L (AAZ) 5spd (300KM)
80 F150 5.8L(160KM)
99 Escort 2.0L 5 spd (190KM)

Reply #11January 21, 2010, 06:54:17 pm

Kworth 2007

  • User+

  • Offline
  • *

  • 36
Re: My 96 Jetta 1.9L in Shop until Jan 4/10 Huge Tune up needed
« Reply #11 on: January 21, 2010, 06:54:17 pm »
Update on 96 Jetta 1.9L

engine is stripped down  WOW the hard starting, save me BIG cash!

compression rings on two pistons were in 5 & 6 pieces, still in the groove, one crankshaft bearing the shine is gone.  4 new oversized pistons,bearing.  Checking the valves in the am they look good.  Use the gasoline leak test on the valves for leak down.
 :-\

complete valves hair line crack between the cylinder on head side

turbo looks fine, but I spend the EXTRA at this time and put on a rebuilt? mmmmm   have a $10,000 engine in a $ 500 car.  Should may stopped back at the Injectors and sold the car.

Cory   My 30 yr old Ford pickup be good to me these pass 6 weeks. But hard on fuel.  Later VW Forum

96 Jetta 1.9L (AAZ) 5spd (300KM)
80 F150 5.8L(160KM)
99 Escort 2.0L 5 spd (190KM)

Reply #12January 21, 2010, 06:59:53 pm

burn_your_money

  • Global Moderator
  • Veteran

  • Offline
  • ***

  • 8999
  • Personal Text
    Bright, On
Re: My 96 Jetta 1.9L in Shop until Jan 4/10 Huge Tune up needed
« Reply #12 on: January 21, 2010, 06:59:53 pm »
Wow that's some horrible luck :(
Tyler

Reply #13January 21, 2010, 07:31:39 pm

maxfax

  • Veteran

  • Offline
  • ***

  • 2126
Re: My 96 Jetta 1.9L in Shop until Jan 4/10 Huge Tune up needed
« Reply #13 on: January 21, 2010, 07:31:39 pm »
 have a $10,000 engine in a $ 500 car. 

The one thing I always tell myself after spending 3x the value of the car on an engine is that I can always swap it to a new body...  Of course I never do...  ::)

Reply #14January 21, 2010, 08:22:34 pm

Kworth 2007

  • User+

  • Offline
  • *

  • 36
Re: My 96 Jetta 1.9L in Shop until Jan 4/10 Huge Tune up needed
« Reply #14 on: January 21, 2010, 08:22:34 pm »
Hi Maxfax

I agree, I the total repair bill will be paid for within 8 months or less on the fuel savings,  Now I can take the family out on the highway, in the HOT sun and not have any problems,  it would sucked bad  I was goingto drive it out to Edmonton on Xmas day,   Expensive tow bill if it would have piled up.


Now looking for a spare car  hmmm anything in Western canada?

Cory 

HMMMM!   fuel milage before the rebuild was mid 40's  on short trips  look out now!!!!

New GM for the Sask Roughriders  our CFL team     how many months before he walks out on the team?


96 Jetta 1.9L (AAZ) 5spd (300KM)
80 F150 5.8L(160KM)
99 Escort 2.0L 5 spd (190KM)