anyone tried these timing tools?

[RabbitJockey]

these



http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Diesel-Timing-Tools-VW-Audi-Volkswagen-Volvo-Bosch-VE_W0QQcmdZViewItemQQhashZitem27adb63f47QQitemZ170418126663QQptZMotorsQ5fAutomotiveQ5fTools]
or these[/url]

[burn_your_money]

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Diesel-Timing-Tools-VW-Audi-Volkswagen-Volvo-Bosch-VE_W0QQcmdZViewItemQQhashZitem27adb63f47QQitemZ170418126663QQptZMotorsQ5fAutomotiveQ5fTools

[burn_your_money]

Regarding the second one, I find that style of timing gauge adapter very frustrating. The lock locks up and you have to get in there with 2 pairs of pliers to loosen it off. It's not efficient.

[RabbitJockey]

any suggestion on which to buy,  i don't wanna spend 90 dollars, but i want an actually set instead of half assing it like i have been doing for years

[burn_your_money]

Half-assing it works just fine. Other then the dial indicator of course.

I emailed central tools about the kit they used to sell. I'm trying to see if I can talk them into selling it again. I have my doubts though...