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September 10, 2009, 07:55:57 pm

moTthediesel

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broken crank
« on: September 10, 2009, 07:55:57 pm »
I think I broke my damn crank! Anybody else ever hear of this in this happening on a 1.6 TD?
'82 LandCruiser Diesel Conversion
4Cylinder 3B/KKKturbo/AudiIntercooler(gone, BNF)
'92 Dodge/Cummins D350 Getrag Dually
356 w/Quantum 1.6TD (73 mpg!)
'85 BMW 524td (Der Komisar) 
'00 Jetta TDI 5spd

Reply #1September 10, 2009, 07:57:00 pm

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Re: broken crank
« Reply #1 on: September 10, 2009, 07:57:00 pm »
Pictures or it never happened!

What makes you think you broke it?
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Reply #2September 10, 2009, 08:46:56 pm

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Re: broken crank
« Reply #2 on: September 10, 2009, 08:46:56 pm »
you'll have to call Guinness world records  :o


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Reply #3September 10, 2009, 10:44:21 pm

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Re: broken crank
« Reply #3 on: September 10, 2009, 10:44:21 pm »
Running over it with a bulldozer does not count !
Hollow grinding the journals is an exclusion too ......

Reply #4September 10, 2009, 11:02:14 pm

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Re: broken crank
« Reply #4 on: September 10, 2009, 11:02:14 pm »
Running over it with a bulldozer does not count !

That won;t break them either..   Well unless it's bigger than an early 40's Cat D8, then maybe.....

Reply #5September 10, 2009, 11:42:30 pm

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Re: broken crank
« Reply #5 on: September 10, 2009, 11:42:30 pm »
not buyin it....lets see pics

Reply #6September 11, 2009, 06:08:19 am

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Re: broken crank
« Reply #6 on: September 11, 2009, 06:08:19 am »
VWs oldschool crank supplier used depleted uranium  :)  pics or you aint broke it - If you have Guiness world records call it is.
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Reply #7September 11, 2009, 09:09:11 am

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Re: broken crank
« Reply #7 on: September 11, 2009, 09:09:11 am »
i gotta see this...

Reply #8September 12, 2009, 07:19:28 pm

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Re: broken crank
« Reply #8 on: September 12, 2009, 07:19:28 pm »
Well, it's either broken or all the flywheel bolts have sheared off, because the starter cranks the flywheel, but the timing end of the crank doesn't turn.

This is an all-star grenade job, as the pistons and valves have had a cornfield meet too -- without the timing belt breaking.  So either the engine (which was running great) suddenly jumped several teeth on a brand new T belt at all of about 1500 rpm, causing the valve crash and resulting in the sheering of said bolts. Or, the crank broke, causing the valves to go out of time, and resulting in them saying hello to the pistons.

I won't know until I perform a full postmortem, and that won't happen for some time, as I'm walking away from it for awhile for the sake of my (too late?) sanity.
'82 LandCruiser Diesel Conversion
4Cylinder 3B/KKKturbo/AudiIntercooler(gone, BNF)
'92 Dodge/Cummins D350 Getrag Dually
356 w/Quantum 1.6TD (73 mpg!)
'85 BMW 524td (Der Komisar) 
'00 Jetta TDI 5spd

Reply #9September 12, 2009, 07:22:02 pm

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Re: broken crank
« Reply #9 on: September 12, 2009, 07:22:02 pm »
Or the cam gear slipped.

Reply #10September 12, 2009, 07:44:28 pm

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Re: broken crank
« Reply #10 on: September 12, 2009, 07:44:28 pm »
Or the cam gear slipped.
Yes that set up scares me too everytime I loosen that bolt and pop the gear loose.  I'm really carefull and probably excessive too tightening that bolt, I also use blue locctite on it

Reply #11September 12, 2009, 07:45:27 pm

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Re: broken crank
« Reply #11 on: September 12, 2009, 07:45:27 pm »
Or the cam gear slipped.

Only way I can see that is if the cam bearings seized, but I guess that's possible --
'82 LandCruiser Diesel Conversion
4Cylinder 3B/KKKturbo/AudiIntercooler(gone, BNF)
'92 Dodge/Cummins D350 Getrag Dually
356 w/Quantum 1.6TD (73 mpg!)
'85 BMW 524td (Der Komisar) 
'00 Jetta TDI 5spd

Reply #12September 13, 2009, 04:01:13 am

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Re: broken crank
« Reply #12 on: September 13, 2009, 04:01:13 am »
I saw a siezes cam once a bunch of years ago on a gasser. My brother put the engine together with the wrong head gasket, no oil to a couple of journals.

Reply #13September 15, 2009, 01:18:17 pm

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Re: broken crank
« Reply #13 on: September 15, 2009, 01:18:17 pm »
Or the cam gear slipped.

X2, some people torque the cam bolt to 45ft-lbs just to make sure.

My guess is the gear slipped and when the valves and pistons hit and stopped the crank then the flywheels inertia made it keep spinning and break the bolts. Someone else on here had the bolts break too.
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Reply #14September 16, 2009, 02:46:39 am

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Re: broken crank
« Reply #14 on: September 16, 2009, 02:46:39 am »
Don't say it never happens...

Karl M.'s TDI failure at 3500 rpm: (photos lifted from YahooGroups TDI conversion site)



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