commonrail? can I swap one to work for diesel purposes?

[NintendoKD]

what years did they satrt using the commonrail system in production diesel engines, more importanly the small ones, maybe I can get lucky and retrofit a system to my car from the boneyard.

[Vincent Waldon]

2009. 

[NintendoKD]

NOT soooo lucky I'll stil try

[Turbinepowered]

NOT soooo lucky I'll stil try

You're going to have a whole lot of fun coming up with how to attach or otherwise affix all the sensors necessary for that system to function onto a IDI block.

[NintendoKD]

No, I think that the fun part comes when I have to use my programming knowhow to flash an 09' ecu to accept given values for an idi engine, unless of course it is a learning ecu then it would be a breeze.

[Zulfiqar]

mitsubishi GDI gasser injectors work at 2000 psi pressure - they are direct injection gasoline engines, pain the butt to fix once they start faltering

[arb]

mitsubishi GDI gasser injectors work at 2000 psi pressure - they are direct injection gasoline engines, pain the butt to fix once they start faltering

That is still an order of magnatude less than is required for a diesel.

On the years here in the US, 2005 saw the Jeep Liberty 2.8L CRD, but please don't use one of these - I want to bolt it into my Jeep Rubicon !!  :-D

[Turbinepowered]

No, I think that the fun part comes when I have to use my programming knowhow to flash an 09' ecu to accept given values for an idi engine, unless of course it is a learning ecu then it would be a breeze.

Incorporating the rail and the injectors without also making use of the sensors to give it inputs is hobbling the entire setup. It's not going to perform very well, and you'll probably end up with dead spots, stutters and skips if it somehow manages to run at all.

[Rabbit on Roids]

you are taking a great engine with no problems, and complicating the hell out of it. whats up with wanting to put a new complicated expensive injection on an ancient engine? its gonna be so god damn hard dude...

[arb]

No, I think that the fun part comes when I have to use my programming knowhow to flash an 09' ecu to accept given values for an idi engine, unless of course it is a learning ecu then it would be a breeze.

Incorporating the rail and the injectors without also making use of the sensors to give it inputs is hobbling the entire setup. It's not going to perform very well, and you'll probably end up with dead spots, stutters and skips if it somehow manages to run at all.

a CRD absolutely will not start nor run w/o at the very least the crank angle sensor.

We have not even discussed an equally important aspect - the combustion chamber size and shape, including the crown of the pistons. A gasser head simply will not get you 20:1 compression. If you could come close, then you have the problem of the injector spraying on a flat crown. The flat topped piston likely would not take too kindly to this.

[NintendoKD]

you are taking a great engine with no problems, and complicating the hell out of it. whats up with wanting to put a new complicated expensive injection on an ancient engine? its gonna be so god damn hard dude...

I am a MARINE, the more you say it's going to be hard the more I want to do it   Not so much that I want to do it, just exploring the options of being able to do something unique, something new that no one has ever done, my 78' tube framed rabbit with 24v vr6 mid engine mounted with all wheel drive is definately that.... err, will be, when it is finished.  Something like that I gotta push the limits, It's all I know.

[arb]

Sounds very cool and very unique. I'd put a 1.9 TDI in that AWD ride if I wanted unique diesel power :-)

[Rabbit on Roids]

how are you going to find a injector suited to work with an IDI but also work on a common rail system? to my knowledge, there is no such thing as an IDI common rail injected diesel. a direct injection fuel injector will not even work right with the pre combustion chamber..

[NintendoKD]

Learn to balance your body solely on your left pinky.  You would certainly be the only person I had ever heard of having that ability.  I'm sure that would be a very unique accomplishment, very hard to do and similarly productive.  The benefit is that it would cost far less money.

but I would have to be HUGE for that to work...   we arent all brawn and no brains out here, this could possibly be a worthwhile venture opening up a unique door to tuning these long lost engines, the honda/rice fanboys had to start somewhere before the aftermarket parts were made available, we have something similar except some don't like change.  I agree with you all not all change is good but to be open to new and radical ideas is how progress is made.

[Rabbit on Roids]

lol, im with andrew. peace out.