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Reply #15August 05, 2009, 10:12:35 pm

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Re: New Pre Chambers Available?
« Reply #15 on: August 05, 2009, 10:12:35 pm »
They are available through Altrom... retail around $40 each.
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Reply #16January 26, 2010, 07:33:11 pm

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« Reply #16 on: January 26, 2010, 07:33:11 pm »
Any luck finding replacement chambers? Couldn't find em on Altrom's site.
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Reply #17January 26, 2010, 08:38:10 pm

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« Reply #17 on: January 26, 2010, 08:38:10 pm »
I, too am VERY interested in replacement chambers, more specifically, the aaz chambers. I just got my new head in and need new chambers, as well as everything needed for a complete head rebuild, valves, seals, guides, etc.  where can I get this stuff for aaz?   maybe one of the euro, or canadian friends will chime in on this one.
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Reply #18January 27, 2010, 10:57:01 am

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« Reply #18 on: January 27, 2010, 10:57:01 am »
I looked at my TD head yesterday and I have 1 chamber that has cracks across 1 and starting on a second one - of course the center two chambers.  I knock the bad one out.  I'm going to check a parts store here that supposed to handle Altrom parts to see if i can get a couple.

Would VW still handle these if I can't get them elsewhere?
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Reply #19January 27, 2010, 05:51:30 pm

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« Reply #19 on: January 27, 2010, 05:51:30 pm »
I bought my last ones from VW, not that expensive.

Reply #20January 27, 2010, 09:18:43 pm

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« Reply #20 on: January 27, 2010, 09:18:43 pm »
My VW dealer says he can't get them here in Canada.

I talked to Parts Source (My Altrom dealer) and he talked to someone in Altrom, but it's possible they both didn't know what I was talking about even though I brought one along I had taken out.  He gave me there account number and password for the website (same # 410400).  I'm going to take a look see, because if I can't get them, an new head may be in order.  Where's the best place to get a new/rebuilt head if I can't find any pre/swirl chambers?

I've got most of my parts to start the build, but I'd like to know I have a useable head before I start (92 IDI TD into an 96 Golf)!
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Reply #21January 27, 2010, 11:03:54 pm

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« Reply #21 on: January 27, 2010, 11:03:54 pm »
I think i could source some but i would have to send the head out to get them done, ya?
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Reply #22January 28, 2010, 01:50:17 pm

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« Reply #22 on: January 28, 2010, 01:50:17 pm »
Can they be made from copper?  For better thermal transmission?   or would that be too soft a material???  I can do copper, and can even make my own if that is the case. 8)
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Reply #23January 28, 2010, 02:21:45 pm

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« Reply #23 on: January 28, 2010, 02:21:45 pm »
I would think that copper would be too soft, as would bronze.

the precup is under tremendous thermal and pressure loads, which is why such a resilient material as inconel was chosen.
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Reply #24January 28, 2010, 09:25:50 pm

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« Reply #24 on: January 28, 2010, 09:25:50 pm »
oops I thought it was the other way around :o  cool you learn something new everyday.
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Reply #25January 29, 2010, 11:32:42 am

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« Reply #25 on: January 29, 2010, 11:32:42 am »
I would think that copper would be too soft, as would bronze.

the precup is under tremendous thermal and pressure loads, which is why such a resilient material as inconel was chosen.

inconel is a nickel - chrome super alloy - usually 79 % / 19 % that is MUCH stronger than steel and melts in the 2,500 F degree range compared to steel's 1,600 F range. Its yield is in the 55,000 psi range at 1,500 F compared to stainless steel's 20,000 psi or so range at room temp.

So, no comparison to copper.

Reply #26January 29, 2010, 11:40:06 am

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« Reply #26 on: January 29, 2010, 11:40:06 am »
So the question remains, can I get new aaz cups?  or am I screwed, how the hell does a rebuilder get them?  like, say for example, our mutual friend prothe. ;)
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you know, decarbonated beer is a better coolant than the stuff you buy at the auto store, and is better for you...... really
"If the boost were to rise then the throttle would remain in the wide-open throttle position, which might be fun, but probably not for long"Libbypapa

Reply #27January 29, 2010, 11:54:36 am

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« Reply #27 on: January 29, 2010, 11:54:36 am »
So the question remains, can I get new aaz cups?  or am I screwed, how the hell does a rebuilder get them?  like, say for example, our mutual friend prothe. ;)

I'd love to take a magnet to the cups in his heads - for some reason I can see the guys in China making a steel based inferior cup. Maybe I'm just paranoid.

Reply #28January 29, 2010, 12:05:38 pm

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« Reply #28 on: January 29, 2010, 12:05:38 pm »
steel or not, he has to get them from somewhere?  and they have to be cheap he's only charging a couple pennies for the crap.  I' could live with steel ones if it's all I can get. :-[
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you know, decarbonated beer is a better coolant than the stuff you buy at the auto store, and is better for you...... really
"If the boost were to rise then the throttle would remain in the wide-open throttle position, which might be fun, but probably not for long"Libbypapa

Reply #29January 29, 2010, 02:31:23 pm

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« Reply #29 on: January 29, 2010, 02:31:23 pm »
New prechamber would be awesome but incase anyone is looking I found these for the aaz:
http://www.altrom.com/partdetails.jsp?id=50
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you know, decarbonated beer is a better coolant than the stuff you buy at the auto store, and is better for you...... really
"If the boost were to rise then the throttle would remain in the wide-open throttle position, which might be fun, but probably not for long"Libbypapa