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Reply #15September 04, 2008, 08:04:20 am

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« Reply #15 on: September 04, 2008, 08:04:20 am »
Wally world sells anti gelling additive. Or any auto parts store OR a truck stop.
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Reply #16September 04, 2008, 08:11:17 am

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« Reply #16 on: September 04, 2008, 08:11:17 am »
zukgod1 do you drive yours in the winter? will it start not plugged in for 8hrs while at work? i can plug in at home not at work.
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Reply #17September 04, 2008, 08:37:05 am

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« Reply #17 on: September 04, 2008, 08:37:05 am »
in extreme weather, you need to add the diesel fuel anti-gel addative to the tank, but I bet at -50 you'll still have so much wax it will not run for more than a few minutes.

A garage would be the best solution. If you can't do that, and it really is -50 you'll have to find a way to keep the fuel lines and tank above 0 F.

Maybe you slap a Tanis heater on your tank http://www.tanisaircraft.com/heaters.html

and add a "T" between the filter and the IP, and another one after the IP fuel return line. Between these 2 "T"'s add an electric fuel pump
 - JC Whitney ZX277501 - pumping from the filter to the tank and a fuel shut-ff valve for when you drive the car. Aircraft Spruce # 6749.

Power it with a 12v supply - Whitney # ZX295810

When you stop for the night, plug in block heater, plug in the tanis heater, open the fuel shut-off valve, plug in the charger. This will keep your tank, lines, filter, IP, from gelling up. It should start easily once you put it back to the driving positions. maybe you wire all 120V through a GFI to one cord.

Reply #18September 04, 2008, 03:58:26 pm

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« Reply #18 on: September 04, 2008, 03:58:26 pm »
I'm going to have to look at something for our beautiful winters....where in 4 hours you get 2 feet of snow...and tempatures vary 40C
Catlin

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Reply #19September 04, 2008, 04:09:09 pm

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« Reply #19 on: September 04, 2008, 04:09:09 pm »
Good compression, good glow plugs, good oil, good battery = no problem starting in Edmonton at -35C
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Reply #20September 05, 2008, 03:21:04 am

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« Reply #20 on: September 05, 2008, 03:21:04 am »
Quote from: "Vincent Waldon"
Good compression, good glow plugs, good oil, good battery = no problem starting in Edmonton at -35C


Add "good diesel" to that list, too? Or just lots of anti-gel?

Reply #21September 05, 2008, 04:08:13 am

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« Reply #21 on: September 05, 2008, 04:08:13 am »
The Station I'd be fueling at ALL the time, we never had a problem with the diesel in our tractor...and shes a beast to try adn start in cold weather...
Catlin

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1999.5 VW Jetta TDI Bosch .216mm injectors and Malone stage 2, soon 11mm pump and vnt 22(parked for the winter)
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Reply #22September 05, 2008, 07:33:53 am

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« Reply #22 on: September 05, 2008, 07:33:53 am »
most cold climates have "winter" fuel with plenty of anti-gel in the fuel all ready.

Reply #23September 05, 2008, 08:03:38 am

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« Reply #23 on: September 05, 2008, 08:03:38 am »
Well, for me winter time has always been a matter of using #1 diesel in various ratios as needed. I would mix my own ratio ("guesstimations") based upon how cold the weather was predicted to be. Back then, I was driving A LOT and was constantly replacing tankfulls of fuel at least every other day.

I accomplished this by purchasing the fuel at places which have the two choices (#1 and #2) at the same pump. I would begin my fill-up with taking on how-ever-much #1 I thought was going to be necessary to keep the tank liquid. Then, top off the rest with #2.

Once it becomes a habit, it doesn't seem like so much of an inconvenience. However, I bet I would pee my pants to look at the cost of #1 right now!!

I personally never had luck with additives no matter how I mixed them. I also never trust the ratios which are written on "winterized" fuel. I used to see my Rabbit sitting in the frost with a frozen tank on "winterized" fuel.

A true 50-50% mix or 60-40 % (more #1) would allow me to get going at -20 F. Of course, a block heater and battery blanket (household heating pad) were necessary. Along with lighter oil.

Don't get me wrong. True winterime is a challenge with these. That is why I always kept at least one gasser at the ready.
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Reply #24September 05, 2008, 08:25:43 am

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« Reply #24 on: September 05, 2008, 08:25:43 am »
Quote from: "Turbinepowered"
Quote from: "Vincent Waldon"
Good compression, good glow plugs, good oil, good battery = no problem starting in Edmonton at -35C


Add "good diesel" to that list, too? Or just lots of anti-gel?


In my region there's no issues with getting properly winterized diesel.... I have a jerry can that sits outside just for fun and I've yet to see wax... lucky I guess.

I *do* run Stanadyne year-round, but for lubrication and celtane rather than anti-gel.
Vince

Edmonton, Alberta, Canada
2001 silver TDI Jetta Malone Stage 1.5 , 2001 blue TDI Jetta SBIII 216s Malone Stage 3, 1970 Bay Window bus

Gone but not forgotten: 1969/1971 Beetles, 1969/1974 Westies, 1979 Rabbit, 1986 TD Jetta, 1992 gas Jetta, 1994 TD Jetta