Author Topic: Low Sulfur Diesel (Read 5436 times)

nokivasara · « **Reply #15 on:** February 01, 2008, 07:24:22 am »

We´ve had 2-5ppm diesel since -91 and no problems so far, my dads caddy has 360 000km on the odo and still going strong, original IP and all. How come you have problems with 15ppm in the US?

BlackTieTD · « **Reply #16 on:** February 01, 2008, 07:29:14 am »

which the parts per millions so low in sweden i wouldn't be surprised if you guys also have an additional lubricant additive in the fuel you describe. as far as i know, we do not over here so we have to add our own if we care about that sort of thing.

shegel · « **Reply #17 on:** February 01, 2008, 07:54:32 am »

Quote from: "jtanguay"

some guys have added two stroke oil with some success in stopping the pump from leaking (and it adds lubrication to the pump & upper cylinder too!)

i use it at a mix rate of one ounce per gallon in my f350..keeps the injectors nice and happy. int the golf i use this

http://www.gunk.com/CAT_M7132.asp

well worth it in my opinion

OM617 · « **Reply #18 on:** February 01, 2008, 02:15:07 pm »

Quote from: "nokivasara"

We´ve had 2-5ppm diesel since -91 and no problems so far, my dads caddy has 360 000km on the odo and still going strong, original IP and all. How come you have problems with 15ppm in the US?

There is a strong marketing ploy going around the USA that makes people think that ULSD is somehow harmful to their engine.

vegfuel · « **Reply #19 on:** February 01, 2008, 04:08:35 pm »

Quote from: "nokivasara"

We´ve had 2-5ppm diesel since -91 and no problems so far, my dads caddy has 360 000km on the odo and still going strong, original IP and all. How come you have problems with 15ppm in the US?

How much is it per gallon where you are?

nokivasara · « **Reply #20 on:** February 02, 2008, 01:02:13 am »

I remember there was a lot of discussion earlier about additives, when this new diesel was introduced.
My dad and I work in the forest, using 2-stroke clearing saws so occaisionally we´d pour some 2-stroke oil in the tank, don´t know how much good it does but it doesn´t hurt either.
Now, there´s no discussions, no one tells you to put additives in the tank, no one has any problems caused by our fuel. Not that I know anyway.

The diesel is 1.20 euro/litre, maybe around 6,60USD/gallon?? We´ve always had expensive fuel due to super high taxes :shock:

Edit: Our diesel has had 5% RME in it too for a few years now, works great, no leaking IP´s :wink:

vegfuel · « **Reply #21 on:** February 02, 2008, 10:15:39 am »

Isn't transmission fluid pretty high in sulfur? I wonder if tried treating some fuel with that if it would make a difference.

Diesel will run damn near anything that's got good viscosity...

OM617 · « **Reply #22 on:** February 02, 2008, 02:31:24 pm »

ATF as an additive is an old mechanics tale, it does more harm than help.

harry_the_face · « **Reply #23 on:** February 07, 2008, 03:39:07 am »

OM617: The "strong marketing ploy" you are talking about is based on the change in the lubricity standard. Lubricity is measured as a function of wear. The new wear standard is <520 microns average scar wear diameter (ASTM D 975 5). The old standard was <460 microns, that is an increase in allowable wear of 13%. The new ULSD has a lubricity of about 600 microns and LSD has a lubricity of 570 microns. So in order for the ULSD to be accepted the manufacturers had to allow more wear. I guess your right about a "marketing ploy" , because it doesn't hurt the auto manufacturers much to allow more wear in the engine. It just means you have to bring your new diesel in sooner for rebuild... Or better yet to buy a new one.