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Reply #120February 03, 2008, 12:13:27 pm

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« Reply #120 on: February 03, 2008, 12:13:27 pm »
My hg is fine, I have arp studs, which I torqued to 100 ft-lbs instead of 75, and I used Edelbrock Gaskacinch on the hg, both surfaces were dead flat, so far no problems.

AS for tranny parts, I am on #3 :lol:  o2a swap is planned for the near future, and that will include a peloquin lsd, and likely cyro'd gears.

Also forgot to mention I figured out the smoke at idle/misfire issue for franken motor cold starts, you need to run a minimum of 1.15mm of timing, I am actually running 1.25mm right now, starts like a charm even at -8celcius.

Reply #121February 03, 2008, 12:21:53 pm

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« Reply #121 on: February 03, 2008, 12:21:53 pm »
this is very exciting... i knew there was a reason why i liked idi's better haha.  and actually seeing this gives me enough confidence to actually shell out the loot for a really good setup.  i need to get my jetta back stuff first though...
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Reply #122February 03, 2008, 12:24:42 pm

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« Reply #122 on: February 03, 2008, 12:24:42 pm »
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I was really bumbed the boost dropped off like it did, it was weird case 20 minutes later on the street it wasn't


Some dynos just can't make enough load on engine to build full boost...
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Reply #123February 03, 2008, 12:51:53 pm

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« Reply #123 on: February 03, 2008, 12:51:53 pm »
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I was really bumbed the boost dropped off like it did, it was weird case 20 minutes later on the street it wasn't


Some dynos just can't make enough load on engine to build full boost...


Its a brand new mustang 1100, single eddy, it can support 2000whp. We seriously just did the first dyno run on it a few days ago, it can load plenty. I am going to do another dyno this week and hopefully break 200, I am going to ease into it a bit slower and hopefully it won't spike and than drop off.

Reply #124February 03, 2008, 01:16:57 pm

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« Reply #124 on: February 03, 2008, 01:16:57 pm »
What did you ceramic coat in your setup? Piston tops, exhaust valves and ports?  Is this with the stock 1.9 cam, HD lifter springs?  Did you record what max EGT's hit?
Are you running stock 155 pop preasure or something different?  What weight fly wheel did you end up going with?

Could you stay out of the black smoke when you went wide open?

Blaze that trail Dave!!!!!  Others will follow!
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Reply #125February 03, 2008, 01:26:29 pm

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« Reply #125 on: February 03, 2008, 01:26:29 pm »
Only things I ceramic coated were the manifolds, and turbo. Thats it. I would have coated more but I did not have the time.
The injectors are bone stock.
 I hit 1600 degrees a the end of the dyno run.
Stock 1.9 cam, HD springs.
Flywheel is 5lbs
Not much for smoke when I am past 20 psi, under that when I am on it hard it smokes pretty good, but if you don't have your foot in it, it won't smoke.

Reply #126February 03, 2008, 01:59:31 pm

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« Reply #126 on: February 03, 2008, 01:59:31 pm »
Are you going to do any more coating when you pull the head?  What kind of effect do you think you will see when you get the cam reground?  I thought I read that you were planning that sometime soon.  

For your injectors, was that bone stock breaking preasure, or plain jane bone stock 1.9 injectors?  I thought you had a set of those dieselicious injectors somewhere in the back of your shop.

Think you can get rid of the smoke, or is that just the way it goes when you are set up for power in the higher rpm / boost range?

I think it will be very interesting to see the changes that occur in your base performance numbers as you add on your performance pieces, ie. cam, tubular manifold etc.
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1985 VW Golf 5-spd, 4-door, 1.6NA  Bought from orig. owner in Savannah with 42,000 miles.
"Making the jump NA to TD" slow but sure.

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Reply #127February 03, 2008, 02:23:23 pm

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« Reply #127 on: February 03, 2008, 02:23:23 pm »
Meh I dunno about coatings right now, I'll probably hold off until I build a proper engine. Should get an extra 7 or so whp and about 15 ft/lbs with the cam.

They are bone stock 1.6td injectors.
Bigger injectors will come whenever mark makes it out here to bring them to me.

I can definitely decrease some smoke when I set things up a bit more to my liking.

Reply #128February 03, 2008, 02:23:24 pm

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« Reply #128 on: February 03, 2008, 02:23:24 pm »
Here is friend dave on the dyno.
Gittin her lined up.

Much smoking!

Turbo Loving!

Dave likes boys!

Reply #129February 03, 2008, 02:25:06 pm

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« Reply #129 on: February 03, 2008, 02:25:06 pm »
Screw you Erik!
Thanks for the pics though, you need a better camera, did you or anyone else get any better pictures?

Reply #130February 03, 2008, 02:28:42 pm

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« Reply #130 on: February 03, 2008, 02:28:42 pm »
Any videos of this thing? or did I miss something?

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Reply #131February 03, 2008, 02:35:57 pm

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« Reply #131 on: February 03, 2008, 02:35:57 pm »
I don't think anyone took video, I don't have a video camera, I'll see if anyone else in the shop has one this week, its so loud though, the video would probably sound like crap.

Reply #132February 03, 2008, 02:45:57 pm

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« Reply #132 on: February 03, 2008, 02:45:57 pm »
No vids, yet. That was the first run with this car at the new shop. Now that he has a Dyno IN HOUSE, I'm sure we will see lots of dyno's runs and video's. I spoke to Dave today and they are going to see if they can break 200whp on Monday.

The bottom end is bone stock out of my car, it had about 40K on a rebuild, the only thing Dave added was main studs. Correct me if I'm wrong.
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Reply #133February 03, 2008, 03:25:48 pm

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« Reply #133 on: February 03, 2008, 03:25:48 pm »
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The bottom end is bone stock out of my car, it had about 40K on a rebuild, the only thing Dave added was main studs. Correct me if I'm wrong.


got girdle?
1.6td 170hp 290nm powered by Holset - sold
golf mk2 1.9tdi PD 193hp/400nm ;)

Reply #134February 03, 2008, 03:34:39 pm

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« Reply #134 on: February 03, 2008, 03:34:39 pm »
The bottom end is stock, with the exception of the arp main studs, thats it, thats all.