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Reply #30October 11, 2007, 09:42:08 am

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« Reply #30 on: October 11, 2007, 09:42:08 am »
You should try newbielink:http://www.autopartsway.ca [nonactive].  They have all the parts from the above links at better pricing.  Haven't tried them yet, but a friend got newbielink:http://www.autopartsway.ca/autoparts/ymks.cfm?VehicleSearch=VO [nonactive] form them and said everything was good. In my opinion definitely worth a try to save some bucks.

Reply #31October 12, 2007, 12:03:56 pm

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« Reply #31 on: October 12, 2007, 12:03:56 pm »
I have an account with autocamping, they have been great. Hight quality parts for a cheap price. You have to have a PST number to get an account. Autocamping caries parts for VW , Audi, BMW, Mercedes, Volvo. Main bearing set for my aaz cabrio were $34
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Reply #32October 12, 2007, 06:33:26 pm

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« Reply #32 on: October 12, 2007, 06:33:26 pm »
If you need any autoparts go to newbielink:http://www.autopartsway.ca [nonactive]  Save time and the money!

Reply #33October 14, 2007, 04:36:42 pm

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« Reply #33 on: October 14, 2007, 04:36:42 pm »
Vincent something is a little unclear here the link provided shows two different oil pumps one at $68 the other at $266 , not too clear on which is correct. Thanks Dan
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Reply #34October 15, 2007, 04:14:07 pm

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« Reply #34 on: October 15, 2007, 04:14:07 pm »
just glued the pan on my 1.6 TD Eco yesterday....new rods, mains, auxiliary shaft bearings.....low and behold I read this thread this morning.....I realize I'm using the crappy two piece thrust bearing....***e!!!!.....this was my K14 rebuild day.....so I dig through two sets of used mains come up with a decent looking pair and some nice looking thrusts.....unglue yon' pan, remove seal holders, ubolt all the mains and slip in the pair of used mains and thrusts.....everything plastiguaged out perfect....thrust clearance that of a new motor.....ohhh well.....tomorrow will be turbo day..... :D

Reply #35October 17, 2007, 12:18:10 am

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« Reply #35 on: October 17, 2007, 12:18:10 am »
Did the 1 piece bearings you removed have copper or metal for the crank to ride on?
 I notice Jake fspGTD had no problem with the 1 piece thrust bearings that had copper riding against the crank,... hard to imagine copper tearing up a crank,... but I'm having a hard time getting anyone with bearings messing up their crank to tell me the brand that did the damage.
 I'm guessing kolbensmidt (sp?) 1 piece are copper and cause no damage.
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Reply #36October 17, 2007, 05:20:43 am

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« Reply #36 on: October 17, 2007, 05:20:43 am »
Well according to one thread on Vortex it was Clevite bearings that caused problems.

I just bought new bearings for my TDI and got Kolbenschmidt mains with Federal Mogul thrusts, both of which are identical in design to the original VW ones I took out. Why the mix I don't know - just what my engine shop could get hold of I guess.

Mains are KW 77 152 600 STD (for 1.9)
Thrusts are AEW4022 STD (for all)

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Reply #37December 20, 2025, 02:24:51 pm

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« Reply #37 on: December 20, 2025, 02:24:51 pm »
Is it STILL the consensus,  almost 2 decades later,  that all the main bearings made
with integrated thrust washers are no good?   I dropped off a 1.6 ME engine at a machine
shop and have been looking for bearings,  it is quite a PIA.   Nobody has all the pieces
in stock,  some say they do,  but still don't.   I've already got stuff I need from 3 different
venders,  and still don't have bearings because prices,what is available, and what's recommended
looks like a ***show.

Are KING 2pc bearings going work or are those also destroying crankshafts?

I got some oversized Arco pistons,  goetze rings,  and machine shop says my crank looks
good,  just get standard bearings. 
Some even say glyco and KS bearings (2pc) aren't as great as they use to be.
I'm not going to spend $200+ on crank and rod bearings and NO thrust washers.
Hansauto has 3-piece mains for $20, imagine that, and the thrust washers included.

This is just a 1.6D NA.,  not a track or burnout car.  Just trying make a tight,
functional engine.

Is there anyone left that knows or even cares?  Seems like the vendors don't and certainly not VAG.
I tried to read up all I could but it seems the discussions ended 18 years ago and most of the
links go nowhere.   I get it that people have moved on.  I've had a 1.5D rebuilt before,  now I'm
trying to stick to 12mm blocks.


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Reply #38December 20, 2025, 08:35:32 pm

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Re: About to buy engine bearings....
« Reply #38 on: December 20, 2025, 08:35:32 pm »
WOW, I didn't know parts were so hard to get.  I am assuming you have tried Rock Auto and maybe that parts place in MI.

Reply #39December 20, 2025, 11:00:59 pm

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« Reply #39 on: December 20, 2025, 11:00:59 pm »
Rockauto has some,  not all.  Oddly they offer a thrust washer in one size by KING,  for mk2 only?,
but KING bearings are 2 piece.  So does that mean that people should buy the Glyco bearings somewhere else to use King thrust washers from RA? lol.   
Or is the recommended thing still just to buy 2 sets of bearings to use thrust washers sold seperately.
btw,  those alleged thrust washers are not seen anywhere else and may be a Rockauto glitch.
RockAto does have mains and rod bearings in ITM right now,  which are made by ? and get internet
ratings of 'garbage' to 'just ok'.   

Sure would be nice to know if the American made King bearings that claim to be specifically for vw's
actually work because the imported stuff seems to drying up.
I think I'm just going to get them from Summit Racing and hope for the best.
They seem to be big supplier of King bearings.

I'm not going for whatever PartPlace is showing.  No part number,  no brands,  no sale.
Techtonics claims to have a set of the (g)old glycos mains WITH  :o washers.
Kudos to them for stocking up,  but kinda
out of my price range for regular 1.6D slug.  $150 to get regular main and rod bearings there.

Edit:  So I did go with Summit Racing,  they have really good prices on King bearings.
Such a good price,  I got 2 sets of mains,  rod bearings,  and stocked up on 3 sets of
sealedpower int shft bearings to slide for free shipping. 

The Clevite rod bearings on RockAuto are probably better,  but at least the general opinion on the
aluminum King bearings is they wear well.
 
I bet bearings will continue to go up next year, lol, like all the other precious metals.
« Last Edit: December 21, 2025, 05:33:16 pm by sgnimj96 »
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Reply #40December 21, 2025, 08:25:44 am

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Re: About to buy engine bearings....
« Reply #40 on: December 21, 2025, 08:25:44 am »
 SgnimjJ96, You have some very good parts connections.
 You used to post them on vwdieselparts.com and have saved me a bunch.
 So if you are having a hard time finding parts, they must be getting hard to find.
 Makes me glad I have some in the hoard.
 My buddy was looking for pistons lately and had a tough time. I had to dig into the hoard for him.
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Reply #41December 21, 2025, 05:30:43 pm

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« Reply #41 on: December 21, 2025, 05:30:43 pm »
I think the low demand, shipping costs, and tariffs are making anything imported harder to find.
This is why I posted hoping for King bearings reviews because they seem to be the most
available.  Turns out King bearings are also imported,  made in Israel.
Clevites are actually the only ones made in the US still, according to ChatGPT, but they are
also under the Mahle brand so they may still be imported.
Clevite CB-1426A rod bearings are listed on Rockauto,
Clevite mains are pretty hard to find,  not sure they even exist for a mk2 diesel.


Summit Racing had the best price. For now, King mains only $26 for the bi-metals.
For that price, got 2 sets, just in case I want to do the hack and maybe use/reuse
real thrust washers.  I'll find out if it's even doable, vw washers and king bearings.
I got 2 sets of mains,set of king rod bearings, and 3 sets of intermed bearings for $119.

Still just getting warmed up,  got some freeze plugs from Oreilys.
They actually sell the pioneer pe144r kit w/ the 4 lg and 1small plugs for
the hidden price of $2.49, catch is shipping (from TX) - $16.  So I spent 32 bucks and
got 6 kits to hoard.  ::)
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Reply #42December 21, 2025, 06:20:32 pm

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« Reply #42 on: December 21, 2025, 06:20:32 pm »
And this explains why in ten years he will be cleaning his garage and putting those extra 5 kits on Craigslist or where ever for cheap.  Just dust them off first.  I really don't understand those who are selling stuff that don't wipe it off, wash it off or present it in a manner that makes you want to purchase it.

Those cars buried in the mud with squirrel nests in the rain tray and seats that are shredded and moldy are not worth the 5,000 dollars you are asking for that truck, I don't think they are that rare actually, not just yet. 

I could be wrong. 

Reply #43December 22, 2025, 10:38:04 am

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« Reply #43 on: December 22, 2025, 10:38:04 am »
ha,  consumerism is quite an addiction.  More, more, more!  and then,  please make this go away!
Then the doctor says 'You need more fiber in your diet, and stay hydrated',  here, buy this...
The movie 'Idiocracy' was barely showed in theaters when it came out because big corporations
didn't like it's portrayal of where consumerism was taking society.  Looks like they had nothing to
fear.

btw, I got the 12mm block I'm trying to rebuild for $60,  guy was asking 100 and I didn't ask for less.
He was just glad to get it out of garage, then he gave me more stuff...  ::)

Kinda cool, it's a mechanical ME block, single oil drain.
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Reply #44December 22, 2025, 07:19:03 pm