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Holset install
by
camboscams
on 02 Oct, 2015 17:47
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I just bought a HE200WG this week! So I'm gathering parts for my install and as soon as my t25 manifold comes from Germany I should have everything I need. With my plans to go mtdi in the future I think this will work well for that too. I will update with a few pictures and my first impressions once it is running. Looking forward to this as I have had my eye on one of these for awhile. Wouldn't know anything about these turbos if it weren't for alcaid and the others that have done installs and provided such great feedback.
Thanks,
Cambo
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#1
by
RunninWild
on 02 Oct, 2015 20:37
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Take lots of pictures. I'll be installing one eventually and itd be great to have an idea of what's involved in the install!
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#2
by
camboscams
on 03 Oct, 2015 11:06
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You bet, i plan to reuse/modify my VNT-15 downpipe to work with the holset. So other than the charge piping it should be an easy install.
I have been battling with the idea of modifying my intake manifold and welding an air to water intercooler inline but i haven't quite made my mind up...
If i don't modify the intake manifold to have a built in water to air intercooler i like the simplicity of the location on idgtd's install.
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#3
by
theman53
on 03 Oct, 2015 14:31
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I did the 221w which is similar to the 200. Nothing really fancy, just lots of work...if you are picky on the downpipe. I braced mine later and I would/should have done it from the start. I also did v band clamps and recommend doing that as I can take the pipe off in about 5 minutes and put it back on in the same amount of time. It takes a ton of marking and crawling under the car, if you don't have a lift, but well worth it. Make sure if you make an intake, which you should have to, make it so that you are not pulling the hot engine compartment air in.
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#4
by
jmaddocks
on 04 Oct, 2015 07:25
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These were the biggest challenges I had with the install:
1. The stock clocking of the HE200WG puts the compressor outlet downwards (i.e., towards the rear engine mount), vice pointing over the top of the valve cover as in a "normal" VW turbo install. I made a bracket to offset the WG diaphragm by one tab but basically kept the compressor outlet facing down, using a silicone bend to redirect the flow towards the FMIC.
2. I'm using an 8V gasser intake manifold, and it's very, very tight fit with the turbo. In fact, I had to add a 1/2" spacer between the exhaust manifold and turbo and grind a bit off the intake runners to have enough clearance between the turbo and intake manifold. Getting to some of the intake manifold bolts is nearly impossible. If/when I do another Holset installation on my daughter's rabbit, I will use a TD manifold vice a gasser one.
3. Fabricating a downpipe flange was a bit of a pain, but not too bad. I went with a 2.5" V-band.
Good luck! It's worth it.
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#5
by
camboscams
on 04 Oct, 2015 08:49
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These were the biggest challenges I had with the install:
1. The stock clocking of the HE200WG puts the compressor outlet downwards (i.e., towards the rear engine mount), vice pointing over the top of the valve cover as in a "normal" VW turbo install. I made a bracket to offset the WG diaphragm by one tab but basically kept the compressor outlet facing down, using a silicone bend to redirect the flow towards the FMIC.
2. I'm using an 8V gasser intake manifold, and it's very, very tight fit with the turbo. In fact, I had to add a 1/2" spacer between the exhaust manifold and turbo and grind a bit off the intake runners to have enough clearance between the turbo and intake manifold. Getting to some of the intake manifold bolts is nearly impossible. If/when I do another Holset installation on my daughter's rabbit, I will use a TD manifold vice a gasser one.
3. Fabricating a downpipe flange was a bit of a pain, but not too bad. I went with a 2.5" V-band.
Good luck! It's worth it.
Thanks, i plan to copy your bracketry design for relocating the wastegate actuator. I am already using a td intake so no issues with clearance. Yea i plan on working on some 3/8" plate with the plasma cutter to make my flange.
@Theman, i just received my v band clamp and flanges so no worries there!!
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#6
by
RunninWild
on 04 Oct, 2015 11:39
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Think you could post some pics of your intake/turbo setup jmad? If any you may have taken of how you modified everything to fit? I have the same intake and also plan to run the 200wg.
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#7
by
camboscams
on 04 Oct, 2015 13:25
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^^^^ Interested as well, i also have been throwing the idea of using a na1.6L intake manifold as the air to water intercooler housing as it is already closer in size to a usable core.
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#8
by
jmaddocks
on 05 Oct, 2015 10:12
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Here are some pics. Intake manifold is from a Corrado G60.
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#9
by
RunninWild
on 05 Oct, 2015 12:12
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Cool that doesn't look too difficult. I'm using the engine in a samurai and have a lot of room below. Thanks for the pic.
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#10
by
camboscams
on 05 Oct, 2015 19:27
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Should be getting my manifold this week as well as one of these beauties!
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#11
by
theman53
on 05 Oct, 2015 20:12
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I would build something for your hot air intake.
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#12
by
jmaddocks
on 06 Oct, 2015 08:30
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I would build something for your hot air intake.
Yeah, the air filter location was an afterthought at best, lol. We've had plans to relocate it but haven't gotten around to that yet.
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#13
by
libbydiesel
on 06 Oct, 2015 10:07
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The airbox and intake hose from RunninWild's for sale thread would fix up that hot air intake right quick.
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#14
by
One_punchmachinegun
on 07 Oct, 2015 09:39
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Maddock,
Could you possibly get a picture from the bottom. I would like to see the intercooler tube and wastegate set up.
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