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MTDI Definition????
by
dennis
on 23 Mar, 2014 06:23
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It has been a while since I have been on this forum. Just been driving my Caddy 1.6TD, and my 83 Volvo 245 D24T. I recently traded into a high mile 2000 Golf TDI (285 kilo-miles), and have started wondering.. I really don't like computer controlled anything on a vehicle.
The question without doing a lot of gleaning info from other posts is "what basically is done to make an MTDI out of a TDI. I got a pretty good collection 1.6 parts. Am I just swapping in a mechanical pump?
I gave the my Caddy to my son as it is hard on an old man with a daily commute totaling over 200 miles, but I could live in a MK1 Rabbit or anything that the seat will move further back in. The 00 Golf would still be a nice platform but the one I acquired is too rusty to put any money in.
Thanks
Dennis
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#1
by
bbob203
on 23 Mar, 2014 06:59
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You need a rover pump its a direct bolt in for your mk4 alh. You will also need a cable actuated gas pedal. You could cannibalize the alh pump but it would be better to just get a rover pump.
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#2
by
CRSMP5
on 23 Mar, 2014 07:04
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Rover pump direct bolt on, make throttle cable bracket, add cable, build vnt controller for turbo,
Sadly, uk guy in uk, no pumps in usa as they all sold, im outta town using crappy phone for this till 3 1st, get theman t, o get u his email, he will want deposit to bringbring more back... Lotsa bs in customs... Last 4pumps were $500 shipped, h
e himself removes from the rovrrs
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#3
by
dennis
on 23 Mar, 2014 07:09
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What particular Rover (year, and model) for search purposes? Were these imported to the US?
Dennis
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#4
by
CRSMP5
on 23 Mar, 2014 07:16
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Ebay uk, no usa imports... Why imo, my uk guy connection value, i know he checks fuel and such before removing, he carry back on plane, ships from inside usa to u... No brick in box, half chance to get thru customs, some morons do not drain fuel, do gets thrown away via shipper, just vs 100 to 300 for ebay, i sold 3 of 4 he got last time
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#5
by
vanbcguy
on 23 Mar, 2014 07:30
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The Rover engines are the 200TDI and 300TDI. You should be able to find them searching for that.
If you are looking, stay away from pumps for a 300TDI automatic. The automatic actually had a computerized pump like a VW TDI.
There is also an EGR and non-EGR version of the pump, only difference is the EGR version has a throttle position sensor bolted on top. This can be used for an electronic VNT controller.
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#6
by
dennis
on 23 Mar, 2014 07:47
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Rover pump direct bolt on, make throttle cable bracket, add cable, build vnt controller for turbo,
Sadly, uk guy in uk, no pumps in usa as they all sold, im outta town using crappy phone for this till 3 1st, get theman t, o get u his email, he will want deposit to bringbring more back... Lotsa bs in customs... Last 4pumps were $500 shipped, h
e himself removes from the rovrrs
$500 bucks? I might be down for one. What is the turn around time?
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#7
by
dennis
on 23 Mar, 2014 07:47
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You could cannibalize the alh pump
What does this involve?
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#8
by
GTFORZA
on 23 Mar, 2014 08:43
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It's a mechanical injector pump on a di motor. It requires a bosch ve direct inject pump. not one of a 1.6 idi. Then you use a early turbo diesel barometric compensation housing on the mechanical tdi pump to compensate for boost.
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#9
by
dennis
on 23 Mar, 2014 09:15
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It's a mechanical injector pump on a di motor. It requires a bosch ve direct inject pump. not one of a 1.6 idi. Then you use a early turbo diesel barometric compensation housing on the mechanical tdi pump to compensate for boost.
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As far as search terms what am I looking for to get "a mechanical injector pump on a di motor"? Were these imported to the US? If so on what? Year model ect...
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#10
by
vanbcguy
on 23 Mar, 2014 09:55
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Check the M-TDI FAQ on this site, you will find the answers to pretty much all your questions.
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#11
by
CRSMP5
on 23 Mar, 2014 14:31
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I have never seen a built m pump work right vs rover bolt on non isdues...
Turn around, gotta get in touch with uk guy, im not home till 31dt to contact him, need to hit up lucas, with your contact info, so uk guy can talk to you about deposit and he supposed to be back week or two...so pretty quick need to get in touch...
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#12
by
TimpanogosSlim
on 24 Mar, 2014 04:52
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It's a mechanical injector pump on a di motor. It requires a bosch ve direct inject pump. not one of a 1.6 idi. Then you use a early turbo diesel barometric compensation housing on the mechanical tdi pump to compensate for boost.
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As far as search terms what am I looking for to get "a mechanical injector pump on a di motor"? Were these imported to the US? If so on what? Year model ect...
Rover never sold diesels in the usa. Some rover fanatics have imported them anyway.
200tdi and 300tdi are sort of engine names. I'm not clear on precisely which range and/or land rovers these were in.
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#13
by
bbob203
on 24 Mar, 2014 05:04
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LR discovery
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#14
by
rodpaslow
on 24 Mar, 2014 08:58
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Look on advanced automation website - they have brand new bosch pumps MTDI. However that is the big, big$$ expensive route to get one. LR is the better way to go.