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#15 by R.O.R-2.0 on 15 Nov, 2011 15:11
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HOLY S#!*! i would hate to have you bright me in oncoming traffic. that IS glorious!!
and the way i look at having bright headlights is this:
basically, every new car has rudely bright lights anyways, so who really cares if the lights on our old VWs are equally obnoxious?
Bingo
honestly tho, thats how i feel about it now anymore. hell with the other people, their headlights are obnoxious too..
whats the easiest way to get HID lighting with an AERO mk2 setup? change it out to a westy 200mm rectangle light setup and buy e-codes?
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#16 by Toby on 15 Nov, 2011 15:22
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I think you can buy aero E codes from one of the online Cibie distrubutors
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#17 by CRSMP5 on 15 Nov, 2011 20:08
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the issue with areos is how they angle the reflector to lens..
adjust it up with a h4 in it.. then put in a hid.. the lights change pattern big time as in one raises up the other lowers its self.. its goofy..
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#18 by Toby on 15 Nov, 2011 22:15
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the issue with areos is how they angle the reflector to lens..
adjust it up with a h4 in it.. then put in a hid.. the lights change pattern big time as in one raises up the other lowers its self.. its goofy..
The problem is that you can't get away from the Dot "drop 2" spread, no matter what bulb you use. The E codes are a whole different thing and every car in Europe uses E code lights so they have to be available. -
#19 by CRSMP5 on 15 Nov, 2011 22:31
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the ones i speak of are hella h4 euro lights, mk1 jetta to be exact.... have owned mine since 94... and have run many different h4 bulbs over the years.. and 2 different sets of HIDs in them too..
me no own any usa crap lights...
and mk2 areo hella euro lights have same design flaw of lense to reflector different from side to side.. which changes bulbs location and makes one hid higher, the other lower vs a h4 bulb..
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#20 by R.O.R-2.0 on 16 Nov, 2011 11:39
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the ones i speak of are hella h4 euro lights, mk1 jetta to be exact.... have owned mine since 94... and have run many different h4 bulbs over the years.. and 2 different sets of HIDs in them too..
me no own any usa crap lights...
and mk2 areo hella euro lights have same design flaw of lense to reflector different from side to side.. which changes bulbs location and makes one hid higher, the other lower vs a h4 bulb..
F### it.. im changing to 200mm rectangles than. that gets away from the AERO downfalls. -
#21 by CRSMP5 on 16 Nov, 2011 14:40
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how bout a set of h4 rounds? rounds put out light better then square ever did... just a idea.. finding old westy 200mm set up difficult..
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#22 by R.O.R-2.0 on 16 Nov, 2011 14:53
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how bout a set of h4 rounds? rounds put out light better then square ever did... just a idea.. finding old westy 200mm set up difficult..
for me, its easier to find a rectangle westy setup, than it is a round setup.. if im gonna go with round, im buying it all brand new. everyone around here thinks there single, and dual round setups are worth their weight in gold.. -
#23 by ToddA1 on 16 Nov, 2011 17:32
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It is also vital to use the stock wiring to trigger relays to power the lights and keep the low beams on all of the time, just adding the high beams to the mix. It is also good to power the relays with big fine stranded wire from the back of the alternator. The alternator terminal has the highest voltage in the entire system. Sometimes 1/2 a volt more.
In a h4 set up, you're recommending running the low beam and the high beam at the same time? I see this greatly reducing bulb life....
I like the tip on where to pick up power for the relay, though.
-Todd
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#24 by rabbitman on 16 Nov, 2011 18:47
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In a h4 set up, you're recommending running the low beam and the high beam at the same time? I see this greatly reducing bulb life....
I like the tip on where to pick up power for the relay, though.
-Todd
I think he means with a 4 light setup like the MK1 jetta.
A local guy here put HID in his MK2 jetta with aero's, he said he had to carve the tabs in the housing so he could turn the HID bulb and get the right HI/LO reflection. He shined 'em at the garage door and it looked good, he said they made a big difference too. -
#25 by CRSMP5 on 16 Nov, 2011 20:53
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ohh they do... i will not say the best.. but vs 100w bulbs.. it lights up so much more.. what i should say.. anything that reflects.. like signs.. they are lit up and reflecting before you can read them.. but its not like they are "light on them" the signs just glow in the distance..
mk1 jetta has high low and a high... my b3 wagon with the de conversions have a low and a high.. and that one i rewired so the lows stay on when highs hit..
having a h4 with both high/low on at one time = blown bulb..
another thing.. playing with bi-xeion (sp??) switching from high to low.. is freeken odd as hell... since the bulb its self moves its got no high/low on at same time aspect.. you will see how its odd...
now i do not know the streets you have or use... but be careful on color..
my area is 90% blacktop... white is great.. blue sux...
out of town on concrete.. blue is great.. white is ok..
both above in non rain situations.. in rain... blue reflects off black top.. all you can see is the lines.. it is horrid.. this goes for blue h4 or hid.. white... in rain on blacktop... LOL.. vs a 100w bulb.. does not reflect light as much.. but still reflects..
i highly suggest a good set of fog lights (not crappy ones.. spend the coin)... wired up so they can be run with only parking lights and with high beams on..
why...
the hid light up fog pretty good... if in really crappy fog.. ill kill my headlights and let the fogs do their job... why highbeams.. they fill the gap between highbeams and front of car.. work as a "cornering light" so on...
ive been playing the light game way too long...
any wiring questions.. ask.. relays are cake.. good grounds and power source is night and day differance..
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#26 by nathan_b on 16 Nov, 2011 23:49
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chris,
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#27 by Toby on 17 Nov, 2011 12:04
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You guys are wrong about running both filaments in an H4 bulb. I have been doing it for years and never have seen a problem. I just see more of the road. Some lighting sites also recommend it.
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#28 by rabbitman on 17 Nov, 2011 12:47
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Yeah the color was the other thing I was wondering about. I want my lights to be like the color of the sun since it's the light my eyes are used to.
The lights I'm looking at now are available in 4300k, 5000k, 6000k and bluer which I'm not interested in.
Around here it doesn't get dark in the summer so not really a need for lights then, in the spring and fall it gets dark of course, and then in the winter it's dark a lot but the snow helps with lighting due to the high reflectivity.
I'm leaning towards the 5000K's.
Here's what I'm looking at: http://www.ebay.com/itm/55-watt-DIGITAL-HID-kit-H4-9003-bixenon-LIFE-WARRANTY-/350161717221?_trksid=p5197.m7&_trkparms=algo%3DLVI%26itu%3DUCI%26otn%3D5%26po%3DLVI%26ps%3D63%26clkid%3D4266139546060124173
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#29 by theman53 on 17 Nov, 2011 16:23
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I bought the H4 blue colored ones forget what they were I think 6000K. They are bright as can be, but like CRSMP5 said it is a different bright. It was when I changed to 7" rounds. I think the change to rounds was amazing in itself as I already had the aeros relayed and knew that difference. I am too cheap to buy more bulbs but I think my next ones will be a more white light. For me the black top driving is the killer. There are a ton of back roads but since I have grown up, got saved, and don't drink and drive anymore I don't drive the back roads at night really at all anymore. I do like the fact I can see deer coming from off the road way out. It is the brand new black top that just sucks so bad. You can't really see the road you just see everything else. The signs are lit up about 3/4 of a mile down the road if it is flat with brights, but the road is no brighter 10 feet in front of you than it is 100 feet.