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off road red dye diesel fuel is now legal for on road use!
by
Master ACiD
on 10 Sep, 2005 22:10
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untill sept 15th, in select states, because of the fuel shortage the irs has allowed the use of red dye offroad diesel fuel on onroad vehicles.
http://www.irs.gov/newsroom/article/0,,id=147221,00.htmlheres the low down from the supplier i just bought my 290 gallons from,
because of the possible fuel shortages, the irs has said that if you purchase red dye fuel to be used onroad, you must pay about 25 cents per gallon tax at the time of purchase.
if you purchase red dye fuel for off road uses, no tax is required at the time of purchase. he also went on to say that you will have a while after sept 15th to run the fuel. the reasoning is that if a driver fills up on sept 15th, he might not run his truck for a while, so they must allow a grace period for people to run their tanks out and return to normal diesel.
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#1
by
Hammy
on 11 Sep, 2005 07:06
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Although I am not certain, I have heard that it is next to impossible to get the remaining residue of the dye out of your tank, and fuel filter. If the vehicle is checked for the use of dyed diesel at a later date, will there be any conflicts? I would like to hope not! A few years ago, a friend of mine was stopped at an agricultural fair where the ministry was checking vehicles for this, and the fines were outrageous. They stopped cars and trucks. I would be sick to hear that someone got pinched over this, a few months from now. If it does just flush out then there would be nothing to worry about.
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#2
by
Master ACiD
on 11 Sep, 2005 09:36
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what does urethane have to do with getting youre diesel tank dipped? i have been checking up on this and it seems that anyone who gets dipped has never gotten more than that. they never crack open fuel lines, or open filters, or that kind of stuff. they just dip the tank, and measure out the ammount of red dye dilluted in the diesel. i talked to my uncle who is a farmer in north florida, he gets dipped about once a month. he said that farmers in his county get checked often because it is tempting for them to use the red dye diesel they buy for their tractors. and atleast in his county they have suspended dipping.
AND and this is a huge "AND"...
i have been hearing reports on other diesel related forums that over the road diesel stores like flying j and pilot are selling red dye diesel right out of the undyed pumps! on a crazy whim i went to walmart and bought a gallon of diesel, and sure enough even walmart is selling red dye now!
if onroad diesel pumps now contain red dye, surely it would take many tanks of taxed diesel to flush the tanks, pumps, filters, filling nozzles, etc... and it the mean time the irs says its OK to use and sell red dye diesel for road use untill sept 15th. there must be a grace preiod to use up the red dye in the tanks?
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#3
by
Master ACiD
on 11 Sep, 2005 11:13
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ok i see youre point, but i dont understand what youre point has to do with this topic? can you please explain further.
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#4
by
Master ACiD
on 11 Sep, 2005 13:06
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are you suggesting that if you run red dye fuel that you will have residual red dye and residue in the fuel system? if this is the point, i apologise. i was looking for some sort of comment or arguement on youre part. i didnt know you were just stating simple obvious public facts.
my apologies.
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#5
by
Patrick
on 11 Sep, 2005 14:16
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Red colour in the fuel doesn't neccesarily mean untaxed fue. I used to buy from a station in Indiana (don't remember which one, but it was a brand name) when I drove OTR long haul, they sold red fuel, claimed it was an additive to replace sulphur. Always wondered what would happen if I got my tank dipped.............
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#6
by
Hammy
on 13 Sep, 2005 11:19
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Like I had said, I am NOT sure if the residual dye can just be washed out or not. Also, I am not sure what the regulations and fines of the USA are. The people I know that had their tanks dipped, were at trade shows in Ontario, Canada. Only one of the people claimed to have their fuel filter spun off, and checked. They hadn't been running the dyed diesel, so they had nothing to worry about. But apparently, there were people there that got caught, and fines were steep.
I did not bring this up to start an arguement, but rather as a word of caution. If everyone is selling red-dyed diesel from thier pumps, then I guess there is nothing to worry about, and carry on business as usual. :roll:
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#7
by
Master ACiD
on 30 Sep, 2005 12:21
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this has been extended untill oct 5th.