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• Definitive Guide to Vehicles with 11mm Pumps??? by superspringer on 30 May, 2009 00:18
• Hi guys,
  I am trying to source an 11mm pump for my GTDi MK2 project (have stuck with electronic control rather than go down the mechanical route) and my trawl through ebay regularly turns up people breaking TDi's of various guises.
  
  My question is this - I know the 11mm pumps come on auto AFN vehicles, but does EVERY auto have an 11mm pump, and does EVERY 11mm pump come from an auto??? Seems that there is an abundance of Galaxy's breaking at any one time so that might be a road to go down...
  Can anybody shed any well informed light on this for me (and anyone else who might be interested!)
  
  Im in the UK if that makes any difference...
  
  Cheers, Adam.
• #1 by ryanp on 30 May, 2009 03:19
• I'm not too sure if that was only the case for the americas due to emmisions, Take a look at the pump's on the galaxy, the 6th digit would be a 0 for 10mm and 1 for 11mm.
  
  I'd like to know this though!
  
  Ryan
• #2 by ptit_lolo on 30 May, 2009 04:23
• If you search a 11mm Bosch pump, you can watch Renault pump (Clio Megane Laguna Espace dTi). With a 11mm Bosch head, it won't break.
• #3 by snakemaster on 30 May, 2009 04:30
• i got a 11mm head from a monteago 2.0l di and i put that on my E tdi mk3 golf pump , ran A1
• #4 by kane66 on 30 May, 2009 08:45
• Getting part numbers is probably the only way your going to be able to tell. But the up side is you'll be able to find a few to bid on and probably find a cheep one by knowing what your getting.
  
  "How do I know what Bosch VE Pump I have or am looking at buying?
  The Bosch part number on the Bosch VEs pumps are fairly standard i.e. 0-460-4XX-XXX VE , what are important to note are the 6th and 7th digits of the Bosch Number. The 6th digit indicates the plunger size, 9 for 9mm, 0-10mm, 1-11mm, 2 for12mm. The 7th digit the is the application, 4 for 4cyl., 6 for 6cyl., etc. The specific manufacturers part number may also be on the pump and completly different, for example, the Cummins 4BT injection pump numbers do not indicate plunger size, everyone I have seen to date has been 12mm. Since the 4BT is a 4 Cylinder engine we can assume that part.
  3917530  1986-90 VE Series Rotary, CPL 858, 105 HP
  3908191   1986-90 VE Series Rotary, CPL 767, 105 HP
  3917535  1986-90 VE Series Rotary, CPL 857, 120 HP
  3906631  1986-90  VE Series Rotary, CPL 593, 105 HP
  3919716  1991-93  VE Series Rotary, CPL 1260, 105 HP
  3926831   1991-93 VE Series Rotary, CPL 986 & 1848, 120 HP
  The only way to know for sure is with the Bosch part Number."
  
  courtesy of vwdiesel.net
• #5 by superspringer on 30 May, 2009 15:10
• Cheers for that information - that is SO useful. Can that information be made reaally public (via a moderator or something) as it is pretty key to most TDi builds!?!?
  
  Cheers, Adam
  
• #6 by Vincent Waldon on 30 May, 2009 15:21
• Quote from: superspringer on 30 May, 2009 15:10

  Cheers for that information - that is SO useful. Can that information be made reaally public (via a moderator or something) as it is pretty key to most TDi builds!?!?
  
  Cheers, Adam
  
  

  
  It's already there, actually.   
  
  http://www.vwdiesel.net/forum/index.php?topic=16687.0, in the VE Pump Info section.
• #7 by kane66 on 30 May, 2009 15:25
• oops meant to include the link.  Thanks Vince
• #8 by superspringer on 11 Jul, 2009 10:29
• Apologies in advance to moderators - i posted this in the pump FAQ thread too, but thought it more relevant to put it here.
  
  

  Quote from: Ziptar on 20 Jan, 2007 15:31

  
  How do I know what Bosch VE Pump I have or am looking at buying?
  The Bosch part number on the Bosch VEs pumps are fairly standard i.e. 0-460-4XX-XXX VE , what are important to note are the 6th and 7th digits of the Bosch Number. The 6th digit indicates the plunger size, 9 for 9mm, 0-10mm, 1-11mm, 2 for12mm. The 7th digit the is the application, 4 for 4cyl., 6 for 6cyl., etc. The specific manufacturers part number may also be on the pump and completly different, for example, the Cummins 4BT injection pump numbers do not indicate plunger size, everyone I have seen to date has been 12mm. Since the 4BT is a 4 Cylinder engine we can assume that part.
  3917530  1986-90 VE Series Rotary, CPL 858, 105 HP
  3908191   1986-90 VE Series Rotary, CPL 767, 105 HP
  3917535  1986-90 VE Series Rotary, CPL 857, 120 HP
  3906631  1986-90  VE Series Rotary, CPL 593, 105 HP
  3919716  1991-93  VE Series Rotary, CPL 1260, 105 HP
  3926831   1991-93 VE Series Rotary, CPL 986 & 1848, 120 HP
  The only way to know for sure is with the Bosch part Number.
  
  

  
  

  Quote from: Greasecar on 19 Oct, 2007 12:50

  I don't know if this link has been posted before but it is very useful for crossing Bosch and vehicle manufacturers P/Ns and even finding #s for indevidual pump parts by application.
  
  The pages take a minute or two to load.
  
  enjoy.
  
  http://www.vepump.cn/CZB.htm
  

  
  Ok...... so I am trying to get a grip with the Bosch or VAG part number for any VAG 11mm (auto trans) electric pump. From the first quote (which seems to make logical sense) it would appear that there would be an 0-460-414-XXX pump that would be fitted to a VW application, but I could not find one on the list in the 2nd quote.
  Does anyone have any actual part numbers and application that I can use to trawl through E-bay / scrapyards / classifieds please? So far every "breaking TDI" I have emailed on ebay has come back with a 0-460-404-XXX, regardless of transmission.
  
  Or could it be that there are some 11 mm pumps with 0-460-404-XXX part numbers?
• #9 by gigaz2 on 12 Jul, 2009 09:23
• nop all bosch should follow that rule