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• My Koni Suspension Issues... by Baselyne on 19 Feb, 2008 13:25
• Ok so A freind of mine dropped off a set off stock rabbit suspension for an A1 as i was having trouble passing my safty
  
  I installed the stock suspension in my 80 rabbit and it was all Bahaa
  The suspension was even sagging alittle due to sitting a while but somehow it came out like this....below
  
  
  
  Im thinking this isnt looking right so I took it apart!!!???
  
  I got thinking later on that It's normal ride height for a stock rabbit so I bought an adjustable suspension off another friend who claim they were Koni adjustbles and that I could drop the stock rabbit ride height with the OEM springs!
  
  
  
  I want to use my Oem springs... But I cannot seem to find how to lower this suspension... Does anyone have koni's like these or knows how from previous experiences?
  
   
  
  It seems I by my measurements that If i could lower the perch on the strut then I could probubley lower the ride height!
  
  
  
  WHo can we contact at Koni for this information? Where on this strut is the serial numbers or P/N?
  
  Im told I can re-fresh them by putting in a new shock cylinder? is this true? If so where can I get some?
  
  
  
  
• #1 by TedV on 19 Feb, 2008 21:02
• I've not seen ajustable perches just like those but going by the pictures:
  soak in WD-40 or PB-blaster
  
  at first I thought it is like the rear Koni shocks for VW and it is a circlip, but one picture from the bottom looks more like a large upside down valve retainer.  Almost looks like if you push the spring perch up to the top, the retainers will be movable. Put them in the slot for the height you want then push the perch back down to lock them in place.  If it's not all rusted together.  
  
  For a street car, I'd say shoot for A-arms parallel to the ground.  With stock springs and lowering the car careful not to bottom out the shock/ suspension, esp when turning.  bad things will happen
• #2 by TedV on 19 Feb, 2008 21:12
• oh, about the inserts, are they the single adjust inserts?  small flat head out the top that turns to adjust rebound damping.  You should be able to get those at most any VW performance part supply house or Ground Control.  any part number will be on the insert inside the strut housing.  There might be spacers at top and/or bottom of the insert between it and the housing.
• #3 by Baselyne on 20 Feb, 2008 04:08
• I have replaced the A-arms, springs, struts, hubs and upper bushings in suspension. even tie rods both sides and Im sitting baaaahhhaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa
  
  
  
  Yes these are the struts that have the adjustable dampner on the top!
  
  I was thinking this was a replaceable cylinder...So anyone have a link to a site that has those?
  
  I'll be busy soaking in something all day and i can give them a try tonight again but it's really stuck togethor...
  
  I also have the rears....with the curclip under that's really easy to adjust! Not the fronts tho...
  
  Can someone comment on my Bahha stock suspension>? This cannnot be stock rabbit ride height can it? it's like 5.5 inches from top of tire to bottom of fender! So Im thinking this can't be right!
  
  
  
  thanks so much for the information you've given anymore would be great!
• #4 by burn_your_money on 20 Feb, 2008 08:45
• Did you roll the car around or anything since you installed the new suspension?
• #5 by TedV on 20 Feb, 2008 09:21
• are the shocks bad?  my first Scirocco I didn't have enough room under it to reach something, buddy yanked up in the bumper and the car stayed stuck up in the air.  :lol:  I had a set of bilsteins that pogoed out when they went bad, gave the Rabbit the ralley look like yours.  Bounce the car and see what happens.  Should bounce a time or 2 and stop
• #6 by Baselyne on 21 Feb, 2008 01:41
• I have not rolled the car around at all but ive seen suspension out of a car and installed then lowered back down many times before....
  
  I know what you mean about jumping on the corner or bumper, it dosent bounce much more than the explained 1 or 2 times with the stock suspension in!
  
  Im Just sitting almost 6 inch off the top of the tire to bottom of fender/wheel well area!  The height of the white area!
  
   
• #7 by Patrick on 21 Feb, 2008 03:04
• I'd bet on mk2 springs in a mk 1, been there done that. Either get the right springs or start cutting off coils.......... Cutting coils will get the ride hieght where you want it, but bet on a stiff ride. All depends what you want............
• #8 by Baselyne on 21 Feb, 2008 04:31
• I want stock rabbit suspension. I was told I was getting Oem vw rabbit suspension that would sit with my stock wheels and stock fenders in stock ride height
• #9 by burn_your_money on 21 Feb, 2008 04:56
• If those are the ones from me they are off a 81 4 door rabbit, definitely mk1
• #10 by Baselyne on 21 Feb, 2008 14:15
• im stumped unless the struts are that pouched that they wont even go down more than 6 inch
  
  wild, im not sure what to do...
  I guess get new struts? I can't seem to get this right and ive had 5 different suspension set ups in this car and almost toasted a set of spring compressors...
  
  what can I do
• #11 by BlackTieTD on 22 Feb, 2008 10:49
• the guys on vhortex in the mkI forum tend to know a bit about this. if i were you i would research how to achieve the type of ride you are looking for based on the testimonials of people who have done it, then buy the suspension that is known to fit the bill.
• #12 by Baselyne on 22 Feb, 2008 11:28
• Good call on that... Im going to have to dust the cob webs off my vortex account
  
  What a rat race for this suspension situation
  more back and forth than a 1 night stand
• #13 by BlackTieTD on 22 Feb, 2008 12:11
• search the old posts if anything. i havent been around much either but there is a lot of good stuff in there. wwr and a few others have good facts for rabbit setup.
• #14 by Baselyne on 23 Feb, 2008 04:30
• Yeah WWR and a few others totaly provide info for the rest of the tex!
  
  Here is some info Ive found regarding the koni's although it appears im the only one that has them...
  
  If anyone knows where to find info about these becuase I cannot read most of the information in the table on step #6
  
  
  
  I also wanted to add that lowering the koni's purchs with stock springs will not really have any effect on the ride height! Kinda makes me wonder what the point of having adjustable purchs is....