Author Topic: just cause u guys are smart and i like to stir the pot. (Read 14042 times)

jimfoo · « **Reply #15 on:** January 12, 2008, 12:12:32 pm »

Still, QuickTD's comments still apply. It takes more power to produce hydrogen by electrolysis than energy you get back. But off solar, wind or hydroelectric, pollution would be reduced. Brown's Gas, the 2nd video and still controversial, has been known for a long time. The thing I wonder about is if all cars were hydrogen powered, what would happen with global warming as water vapor is a much stronger greenhouse gas than CO2.

jtanguay · « **Reply #16 on:** January 12, 2008, 08:52:59 pm »

i'm still pro algae. those little guy's have been around for millions of years and most of them are our friends. so lets farm those little friends, and then extract their oils to produce biodiesel!! :lol:

since they use CO2 for photosynthesis, it sort of completes the cycle... no new CO2 added to the atmosphere, and we still get to diesel :twisted: although some of those electric cars are pretty damn hot... full torque at 0 rpm? daaaaaammmnnn!!!!! and with newer batteries lasting much longer than previous ones, it's becoming more and more a reality.

jtanguay · « **Reply #17 on:** January 12, 2008, 09:10:30 pm »

lol i checked out that guy's 'water powered car'

honestly... that one battery producing enough hydrogen so the engine runs solely on that? i dont know man... there HAS to be a catalyst...

you don't get enough hydrogen from a battery... i'm thinking that he's using some sort of medium ... either like i dont know something that reacts with water.. possibly a metal, and electricity helps it... because it is sea water and salt helps a bit by reducing the molecular bond.

pretty convincing watching it on TV... the way he pulled the hose and how the engine stopped... (probably with some guy and a remote car starter :lol: )

http://youtube.com/watch?v=NLKExuHlQMQ&feature=related

that looks pretty cool... but enough electricity for my house too? wtf? and nothing to replace? seems suspicious to me... i personally think that they will keep dangling this idea in front of us while selling us petroleum fuels... 20 years time we'll be able to drive these cars... right! maybe 20 years after that :lol:

jimfoo · « **Reply #18 on:** January 12, 2008, 09:40:56 pm »

Quote from: "jtanguay"

http://youtube.com/watch?v=NLKExuHlQMQ&feature=related

that looks pretty cool... but enough electricity for my house too? wtf? and nothing to replace? seems suspicious to me... i personally think that they will keep dangling this idea in front of us while selling us petroleum fuels... 20 years time we'll be able to drive these cars... right! maybe 20 years after that :lol:

Well, car engines are also rated in kilowatts in some places, so yeah a car engine could power many houses if hooked to a generator.

Mark(The Miser)UK · « **Reply #19 on:** January 13, 2008, 01:32:59 am »

Quote from: jtanguay

lol i checked out that guy's 'water powered car'

honestly... that one battery producing enough hydrogen so the engine runs solely on that? i dont know man... there HAS to be a catalyst...

you don't get enough hydrogen from a battery... i'm thinking that he's using some sort of medium ...
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Yea like "Great Running Bear" ....faced liar:roll:
Imagine splitting a pint of water and using it to both run your car and (naturally) charge upyour biggest car battery. Recoup the water remove and store the fully charged battery and insert a spare one. Go out for a drive charge the battery recoup water remove and stack up the battery with the other one, borrow your neighbours battery go out for a run...
Pretty soon you've run out of neighbours so you have to organise raids on neighbouring towns. Pretty soon you're as big as Microsoft and with more stored energy than the Arabian oil fields. :twisted:
And you still have your pint of water. You may have been inefficient and spilled some so now it is only a US baby pint rather than a man-size UK pint but then again there is a top up facility in a place near you.... :mrgreen: :mrgreen:

jimfoo · « **Reply #20 on:** January 13, 2008, 07:04:30 am »

Only problem is that scenario creates energy out of nothing. Splitting water then recombining it will create a net energy loss, not to mention the energy losses associated with the electric motor, vehicle friction etc.

QuickTD · « **Reply #21 on:** January 13, 2008, 10:00:24 am »

Quote from: "Mark(The Miser)UK"

Imagine splitting a pint of water and using it to both run your car and (naturally) charge upyour biggest car battery. Recoup the water remove and store the fully charged battery and insert a spare one. Go out for a drive charge the battery recoup water remove and stack up the battery with the other one, borrow your neighbours battery go out for a run...
Pretty soon you've run out of neighbours so you have to organise raids on neighbouring towns. Pretty soon you're as big as Microsoft and with more stored energy than the Arabian oil fields. :twisted:
And you still have your pint of water. You may have been inefficient and spilled some so now it is only a US baby pint rather than a man-size UK pint but then again there is a top up facility in a place near you.... :mrgreen: :mrgreen:

I love it, simply recover the water from the tail pipe and just feed it back into the "hydrogenator" or whatever the hell it's called. Never need to refuel again, fantastic!!! When do we get started? We're going to rule the world!!!

Ziptar · « **Reply #22 on:** January 13, 2008, 04:29:14 pm »

Why go through all that trouble.

:lol:

RabbitJockey · « **Reply #23 on:** January 13, 2008, 09:02:04 pm »

algae farming, or hemp seeds make great oils. but hemp is illegal and you can't even get high off of it. and who cares if you can get high off something.

burn_your_money · « **Reply #24 on:** January 14, 2008, 07:57:54 am »

Hemp isn't illegal in Canada that I'm aware of

jimfoo · « **Reply #25 on:** January 14, 2008, 08:16:54 am »

If it's illegal here, where do all the hemp jewelry and clothing products come from, I guess 3rd world countrys? Maybe they can send us hemp oil for cheap. Hey, they need the money right?

clbanman · « **Reply #26 on:** January 14, 2008, 09:18:26 am »

Quote from: "burn_your_money"

Hemp isn't illegal in Canada that I'm aware of

It is tightly controlled. There are several large plots locally, and they have to jump through a lot of hoops. Seehttp://www.hc-sc.gc.ca/dhp-mps/substancontrol/hemp-chanvre/about-apropos/stat/appendix-annexe-iii_e.html
The government does require a license to produce or process hemp.

RabbitJockey · « **Reply #27 on:** January 14, 2008, 02:06:02 pm »

yeah growing hemp is totally illegal in the us, but we can import its products. pretty retarded considering it has the answer to a lot of issues. canada is by far ahead of the us politically. but for some reason there is a playful hatred for canada here in america. probably just because u guys do alot of things better than us while we consider our selves the world super power. what a joke. i don't see why we are so worried about being a super power anyway, who cares.

subsonic · « **Reply #28 on:** January 14, 2008, 03:46:06 pm »

Anyone care to ponder a guess at what our first President, George Washington grew at Mt. Vernon.

RabbitJockey · « **Reply #29 on:** January 15, 2008, 03:22:11 pm »

Quote from: "subsonic"

Anyone care to ponder a guess at what our first President, George Washington grew at Mt. Vernon.

him and everyone else haha. it was a big cash crop, our constitution and declaration of independence were written on it.