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• just cause u guys are smart and i like to stir the pot. by RabbitJockey on 17 Dec, 2007 18:37
• i mean everyone knows this is the smartest car forum, so all the americans on here, don't forget to vote for the real under dog at your states republican primaries.  and don't forget to register republican so you can vote for him.  obviously i'm talking about Ron Paul.  hes the leader of the majority of the polls, yet some how our media won't mention him,  they are talking about mike huckabee because he won one straw poll.  I mean the guy just broke john kerrys record of raising 5.7 million dollars in one day, (paul brought in over 6 million) and i have yet to hear a whisper about it on the news.  The guy wants to get rid of the irs, what more could you ask for in a president haha.  discuss, hopefully this doesn't get closed.  Anyways to keep this diesel related, i bet paul would support current technologies rather than ***ing around with e85 and other things that don't work, what about the water powered cars that you never hear any talk about, and yes they do exist i'm not joking haha.
• #1 by jtanguay on 17 Dec, 2007 20:36
• any president who pulls out of iraq is a smart one.  at this rate you poor guys won't have any social security benefits...  if i was there i'd probably vote for him
• #2 by MaxHedrm on 18 Dec, 2007 02:06
• Quote from: "jtanguay"

  any president who pulls out of iraq is a smart one.  at this rate you poor guys won't have any social security benefits...  if i was there i'd probably vote for him

  
  
  With Ron Paul we won't have SSI benefits either, but for the right reasons. It was intended to be temporary anyway.
• #3 by RabbitJockey on 18 Dec, 2007 14:08
• and if he gets rid of the irs, which is totally unconstitutional in the first place, we won't need social security because they won't be robbing us of our income anymore so we could just save that.   Since the federal income tax technically does not apply to the money we receive from our labor just money such as lottery earnings or when you gain it int he stock market.  and actually i was wrong, he raised over 6 million and did beat john kerrys record.  but you know our media keeps talking about mormons and christians , while pretending that ron paul doesn't exist.
• #4 by Ziptar on 18 Dec, 2007 17:53
• I have to say I hadn't looked too closely at Ron Paul until someone linked me this: http://www.house.gov/paul/tst/tst2007/tst031907.htm
  
  The guy nailed it dead on, 9 months before any other politicians began to notice anything.
  
  It caused me to start looking at his site, platform, and press. I have until Dec. 31st to change my voter registration from NPA to Rep. so I can vote in the primary.
  
  Looks like I am going to change it.
  
  As far as fuel efficiency,thats a prime example, the main stream media and the beltway bunch are all slapping themselves on the back today over passing a bill to raise CAFE (Corporate Average Fuel Economy) Standards or MPG to 35 MPG by 2020.
  
  Sorry to go off on a rant but,
  
  Yeah, they are a bright bunch, thats just 30 years too late, Just as W. abandoned keeping Banks, insurance, and investment firms separate which lead to the current housing mess. He also abandoned an agreement that kept U.S car makers pushing for higher MPG instead and launched a multi-decade research program to develop a car propelled by a hydrogen-powered fuel cell. Brilliant, meanwhile CAFE dropped and we got SUVs.
  
  this is a good read
  Gas prices too high? Try Europe.
  
  
  
  Just like the 70's Gas Crisis, Detroit and U.S. Standards are out of touch, behind the 8 ball, and too little to late.
  
  Jimmy Carter said it best in a speech he gave April 18, 1977.
  
  
  

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  Each American uses the energy equivalent of 60 barrels of oil per person each year. Ours is the most wasteful nation on earth. We waste more energy than we import. With about the same standard of living, we use twice as much energy per person as do other countries like Germany, Japan and Sweden.

  
  
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  "and the cornerstone of our policy, is to reduce the demand through conservation. Our emphasis on conservation is a clear difference between this plan and others which merely encouraged crash production efforts. Conservation is the quickest, cheapest, most practical source of energy. Conservation is the only way we can buy a barrel of oil for a few dollars. It costs about $13 to waste it."

  
  
  Today they are all acting like they solved a crisis with an original idea and they are so brilliant... They are idiots, all they proved today is that they never learned the lesson and dropped the ball by not upping CAFE standards sooner.
  
  Bio-Fuels and alternatives are nice and all. How about we start with using less of what we have now. It's a hell of allot cheaper than trying to play catch up with new technology they mostly ignored until now.
  
  Of course, what do you expect from an industry and bunch of cronies that proclaims the 2008 Chevy Tahoe Hybrid V8 that gets 21 MPG as "Green Car of the year". If that "green" vehicle is still only shuttling around a soccer mom and her shopping bags, what good is it.
  
  Meanwhile Honda is already selling a car that runs on water.
  
  I think finally middle America is waking up, and getting a wiff of the party and corporate bull crap.
  
  I think the politicians and press will soon find out we are not as stupid and focused only on "Dancing with The Stars" as they think we were. We have had enough, know what is right, and want our country back.
  
  The Primaries early next year will begin to reflect that.
• #5 by RabbitJockey on 18 Dec, 2007 19:16
• haha my sister told me that her fiance and her wanted to buy a toyota hybrid suv or some ***.  i laughed so hard, she thinks she needs 4 wheel drive, and i as like you know hybrid suvs only get like 2 mpg better.  and then i explained how fwd is sufficient in the snow my rabbit went everywhere i wanted.  like you say though the people are waking up and not just thinking that ron paul is some unelectable underdog, the more i talk to people the more i realize how much support the guy has.  but i must admit, many people are clueless as to who he is. :roll:
• #6 by RabbitJockey on 19 Dec, 2007 17:43
• he was on glenn beck for a full hour last night.  pretty excited to hear him be allowed to talk
• #7 by rwdriver on 03 Jan, 2008 18:13
• I would love to see ron paul as president, he's a modern genius. he could really change america for the better.  it's great to see that he has support on this forum.
• #8 by Ziptar on 03 Jan, 2008 18:40
• He doesn't have support on CNN... He is currently at 10% in the results in Iowa and beating Juliani and CNN has yet to put his name on the tally board or even mention his name.
• #9 by jtanguay on 04 Jan, 2008 04:46
• Quote from: "Trev0rbr"

  haha my sister told me that her fiance and her wanted to buy a toyota hybrid suv or some ***.  i laughed so hard, she thinks she needs 4 wheel drive, and i as like you know hybrid suvs only get like 2 mpg better.  and then i explained how fwd is sufficient in the snow my rabbit went everywhere i wanted.  like you say though the people are waking up and not just thinking that ron paul is some unelectable underdog, the more i talk to people the more i realize how much support the guy has.  but i must admit, many people are clueless as to who he is. :roll:

  
  
  yea front wheel drive is definitely sufficient for the snow...  i remember two winters back on the first snowfall here in Ontario.  i was heading down the highway and there was a bunch of retards in the ditch... oh yea and i saw a subaru.  sorry your 4 wheel drive does not make you invincible  :roll: my diesel jetta was fine at 100km/h in the snow.  you can pretty much go as fast as you want in a straight line...(if your alignment is perfect and there isn't any wind) its only when you either lock up the  wheels or try to change direction that your car will start to spin out.
  
  oh yea i also saw a truck spinning out.  i laughed because people think that trucks make them feel 'safe'.  i bet that person felt real safe as they slowly skidded into the ditch.  it honestly looked like ballet it was so slow... these people weren't even going that fast.
  
  and this is why insurance rates are so high  :roll:  :evil:
• #10 by RabbitJockey on 10 Jan, 2008 20:33
• people think trucks and suvs are safer but crash tests disagree
• #11 by 745 turbogreasel on 11 Jan, 2008 00:03
• I have seen a few head ons between Suburbans and smaller FWD cars.
  The result is always the same.
  Once the EMT's are done using the jaws of life to extract the wounded, The Suburban backs up, and goes in search of a new grill.
  
  Moral of the story, no matter how fast your zippy little car seems, do not go in the oncoming lane.
• #12 by QuickTD on 11 Jan, 2008 07:17
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  Meanwhile Honda is already selling a car that runs on water.

  
  
  [rant]
  
   This sort of statement annoys me. I suppose in certain places (laboratories, for the most part) the honda FCX runs on water, but here in real life it more likely runs on natural gas, coal or oil.
  
   Water is the result of burning or reacting hydrogen, so to get the hydrogen back out of the water you need to replace all of the energy released during combustion, plus a bit extra to make up for the inefficiencies of the process. Simple thermodynamics, no "naysaying" or anything of that sort, just the facts. In most places, hydrogen production by electrolysis is prohibitively expensive due to amount and cost of the required electricity. This process is most often used in labs or in public demonstrations of "water fueled cars". Iceland is one exception. With abundant geothermal energy they are able to produce an excess of electricity that could be used for hydrogen production. In most of the world electrolysis would be a foolhardy waste of electricity.  
  
   My uncle and my girlfriends father both worked for CIL (now "terra") in sarnia, ontario in the ammonia unit. The production of ammonia for fertilizer and explosives requires many millions of tons of hydrogen every year. Since fertilizer just gets thrown on the dirt, it needs to be very, very cheap.
  
   Commercial hydrogen for ammonia production (and motor vehicle fuel) is produced by reacting natural gas with high pressure/temperature steam and a catalyst. This process breaks the methane into hydrogen and carbon dioxide. The carbon dioxide is vented off to the atmosphere and the hydrogen is compressed and stored. The process is extremely cheap and is able to produce vast quantities of hydrogen. The same method is used in the home refueling stations proposed by honda. Have a look - http://automobiles.honda.com/fcx-clarity/owning/home-energy-station/ Runs on water indeed... :roll: . Other hydrocarbons like oil and coal can be subjected to similar processes to extract the hydrogen and though these feedstocks are more expensive than natural gas, they are still vastly cheaper than electrolysis.
  
   If you feel you must operate motor vehicles on electricity, it would be far more practical to use batteries and use the electricity directly. This would avoid the production, storage and distribution problems associated with hydrogen. Lithium polymer batteries exist (you probably have one in your cell phone) that can store nearly as much energy as hydrocarbon fuels and more than compressed hydrogen. The pricing of these batteries is much cheaper than current fuel cells and the technology, while still pricy, is far closer to reality than any hydrogen fuel cell.
  
  [/rant]
• #13 by Vanagoner on 11 Jan, 2008 15:23
• I like having an artifact from the Carter administration on my dashboard-  the special mark at 55 mph.  To me it indicates either "realistically obtainable cruising speed" or "so this is why VW thought they could get away with bringing a 1.6 n/a camper with alpine transaxle to the U.S. market".
  Since Ronald Reagan changed the speed limits back up,  My bus is as warmly recieved on the interstate as a four foot wide bicycle.
  
  And yes, I like making my morning java with fresh star exhaust.
• #14 by RabbitJockey on 12 Jan, 2008 11:06
• these are the water cars i was referring to.
  
  http://youtube.com/watch?v=UVhXrvCCILw&feature=related
  
  http://youtube.com/watch?v=wb8wIqECwGE