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For Sale/Looking For => Parts for Sale/Wanted => Topic started by: shwak23 on March 13, 2013, 10:20:57 am
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Well my head is warped. So I need a 12mm mechanical head. Desperate. I don't have have a ton of money. Can anyone out there please help me out? This is my only car and living in Maine without a car is like being on the moon without a spacesuit.
I am either going to buy a head or a revolver with one bullet.
And these days it seems like it may be easier to find the head. ;)
Thanks.
Text or call if you would like. 207 310 067eight
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How warped is it? You can get it machined if it's not too bad.
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O rly? What's the cost involved in that? My budget is around $200
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also how warped is it? a guy i know bought a rabbit that had been severely over heated, the head was warped .010" and he just reinstalled it with no issues so far. it might be worth a shot to reinstall it if it's 10 or less
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I was recently quoted a 115 dollar price for pressure checking and milling on an 11 mm head I have. Price in Portland, OR.
I may exchange that work for the lower end of the diesel engine I have sans all internals. Guy needs to bore it out and install his parts. Just cracked the block after doing all the work.
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I paid around $80 a few years ago to have my head shaved 0.004.
If you are attempting to use a metal gasket your head must be flat. I had one leak immediately upon startup with a 0.004" warp. I've also had the fiber ones leak with warped heads. I forget how warped it was though
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pull the head and check the warpage. if it's less the 010 put it back together with a 3 notch gasket and new bolts. oh yeah, one more thing: don't let it get hot again.
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I don't have a Bentley in front of me right now but I'm pretty sure the spec is 0.004" or 0.10mm max warpage. Do not attempt it if you are warped more than that, it is highly unlikely to seal. Also, use the proper sized head gasket, it does matter.
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A little bird once told me if they are warped long ways, you can press them straight, YMMV
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Where does one find a head presser?
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200$ budget not going to get you much..
i have one.. no history.. do not like how it looks to have had a valve seat installed.. so 125$ shipped.. came w/car i got.. in tub in back... i just do not trust it as someone changed a valve seat at 1 point..
ive seen stuff like that fail.. so do not trust for myself..
but it looks crack free and ll besides that.. just you gotta trust a machine shop did it right.. i dont..
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shop press or big weight....
If you straighten it, the cam journals don't get out of whack like if you skim a warped head.
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If you have more time than money, you can flatten the head gasket surface by lapping the head with lubricated 100 grit sandpaper on something hard and flat (e.g. polished granite). That's easier on the pre-chamber inserts than running a cutter across them and will leave them a little proud due to their harder material which is what you want. I've used sandpaper for a hardwood floor sander. Pieces as large as the head should be available at any tool rental place that rents drum sanders.
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200$ budget not going to get you much..
i have one.. no history.. do not like how it looks to have had a valve seat installed.. so 125$ shipped.. came w/car i got.. in tub in back... i just do not trust it as someone changed a valve seat at 1 point..
ive seen stuff like that fail.. so do not trust for myself..
but it looks crack free and ll besides that.. just you gotta trust a machine shop did it right.. i dont..
I will certainly keep this in mind as I go along here. Thx.
If you have more time than money, you can flatten the head gasket surface by lapping the head with lubricated 100 grit sandpaper on something hard and flat (e.g. polished granite). That's easier on the pre-chamber inserts than running a cutter across them and will leave them a little proud due to their harder material which is what you want. I've used sandpaper for a hardwood floor sander. Pieces as large as the head should be available at any tool rental place that rents drum sanders.
Thanks for giving me something that is right up my alley. I do have way more time than money.
I just remembered last night my friend rebuilds engines for a living. He may be able to check the head/ fix it for free. But we shall see.
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well i got access to a paypal acct... ups is 10min away... so just let me know... bbob can look at it for you too.. i expect to see him tues evening.. i know he has "looked" at it.. but ive never pointed out its flaw to him..
i will remove the cam pre shipping.. do not need idiots to drop it to damage a valve.. had that issue 12 years ago.. sadly never saw damage till it dropped a valve :( which ruimed the engine.. and for how it was packed still do not get how damage occured.. so cam will be removed..
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Well it is looking like a head will be needed. Warping is the least of my problems. Pictures soon to follow.
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So unless another solution comes up. I will probably buy that head today or tomorrow. Anyone have any suggestions for things I could do to this used head before reinstalling?
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Rebuild your injectors.
You should port it as well if you have the tools.
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i have access to all the tools for a valve job... but realism is $200 budget = bolt and go..
sadly you never said it was turbo... dont scrap that head.. the exhaust valves are turbo sodium ones...
that brings up the valve seat but i think its a exhaust one.. and this is a na head with normal valves..
if you run it sootin with tons of fuel/heat this head really is not what you want.. its my "crap im in deep poo" head.. not a got built engine for max power head..
now since i had same thing happen to me back in 07.. any idea why it happened to you??
me i had a blown by pass hose 6mo prior.. never got hot.. but only time i owned it and ran it warm since 02.. i also have it shoe horned in a b3 wagon that was loaded big time on a road trip... not a first time.. but maybe was on last leg.. had over 300k on it..
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I feel like if I have to spend over $200 I will be to close to what I can spend to just get a new engine. There is a MK2 TD complete car not too far from me with 118k for $999. There are a number of TDI complete cars for $1000-1500. And a friend has AAZ motors for $800-1000.
Spending $500+ on a head for my unknown mileage quantum motor that I have been running for nearly 3 years that I bought out of some guys shed doesn't make sense.
I promised myself I would never spend $500+ unless it was for a 1.9 be it aaz or tdi.
Why this happened? I dunno. I probably got it hot the other day. I ran it a couple miles with little coolant and no alt belt the other day.... I currently run a blocked wastegate T3 with an injector pump with full shimmed gov. I don't romp on it that often by any means.
Question: Can I run a 1.6 td pump on an AAZ? How about a t3? Would I just use a 1.6 exhaust mani?
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does the water pump depend on the alternator to spin with your pulley system?
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The water pump crank and alt are all on the same belt. Like rabbits. I have a mk1 alt bracket on there.
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Ok so... just running through my options here. Can a hydraulic head go on a mechanical block?
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If you've got the extra cash on hand right now.. BUY THAT AAZ CAR. You'll get scrap back, or part it out..
You will not be displeased with it by any means. They are an AWESOME engine, even when it was stock in my bro's 84. Even better now with a fully turned up pump ;)!
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There is a 1.6 td eco diesel in new hampshire. If the guy gets back to me and I can raise the money I will get it.
Unless a head comes up. Can't believe no one has a td mechanical head laying around on here.
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I found one. For the price of free.
The best price. Cam is a little rusty. But I can use my old one. My friend is gonna do some valve seals for me.
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u have friends? :D
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Strange at that. And Good ones to boot! He just lives right, or doesn't buy lottery tickets and has his luck saved up for stuff like this.
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Strange at that. And Good ones to boot! He just lives right, or doesn't buy lottery tickets and has his luck saved up for stuff like this.
Something like that. But if I had good luck I wouldn't have a cracked head sitting here. :(
Ah well valve seals will be done Monday. And hopefully should have a running vehicle by the end of the week.
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