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Engine Specific Info and Questions => TDI Engine -General Info => Topic started by: bbob203 on November 21, 2012, 04:13:41 pm

Title: Starters Tdi vs 16v
Post by: bbob203 on November 21, 2012, 04:13:41 pm
Are they the same?
Title: Re: Starters Tdi vs 16v
Post by: 8v-of-fury on November 21, 2012, 06:15:44 pm
Gas and Diesel have a different starter. The mk1-2-3 diesel with exception to the late mk3 tdi were the same.. But nearly twice as powerful as a gas starter.
Title: Re: Starters Tdi vs 16v
Post by: burn_your_money on November 21, 2012, 06:22:23 pm
Quote from: 8v-of-fury on November 21, 2012, 06:15:44 pm
Gas and Diesel have a different starter. The mk1-2-3 diesel with exception to the late mk3 tdi were the same.. But nearly twice as powerful as a gas starter.

Hang on here, MK1 and early MK2 diesel are the same, late MK2 and MK3 diesel (Canada) are the same (they have the smaller diameter body). I'm not sure where the TDI fits in but dimensionally it is the same as the late mk2 and Mk3s.

I'm only talking about the diesel starters.
Title: Re: Starters Tdi vs 16v
Post by: bbob203 on November 21, 2012, 06:28:27 pm
So a 86 mk2 diesel starter will work on an 02a?
Title: Re: Starters Tdi vs 16v
Post by: 8v-of-fury on November 21, 2012, 06:29:20 pm
Ahh yes sorry when I said the same i meant application. Early diesel starters are huge and non gear reduction. I have a late mk2 and tdi starter in my hands right now. There is no shaft to interact wih the 020 trans and vice versa.

Cannot use tdi starter on 020 trans.

Cannot use 020 starter on 02A trans.
Title: Re: Starters Tdi vs 16v
Post by: 8v-of-fury on November 21, 2012, 06:29:54 pm
No the offset is differnt because of the 02A flywheel.
Title: Re: Starters Tdi vs 16v
Post by: theman53 on November 21, 2012, 06:39:37 pm
8v, you can use a TDI auto starter on the old 020, but it is the ALH auto...don't know if the AHU even had an auto option.
Title: Re: Starters Tdi vs 16v
Post by: burn_your_money on November 21, 2012, 06:48:52 pm
Quote from: theman53 on November 21, 2012, 06:39:37 pm
8v, you can use a TDI auto starter on the old 020, but it is the ALH auto...don't know if the AHU even had an auto option.

AHU did not have an auto option in North America.

Yes, the ALH TDI auto starter works on the 020.

8v are you use the AHU starter won't work on the 020?
Title: Re: Starters Tdi vs 16v
Post by: 8v-of-fury on November 22, 2012, 07:26:13 am
It honestly looks that way..

The snout sticks out further meaning the gear also sticks out further in its resting position.
Title: Re: Starters Tdi vs 16v
Post by: bbob203 on November 22, 2012, 07:45:02 am
On rock auto looking at pics the 1z auto starter looks identical to an 020 1.6 starter. Standard trans starter definitely not the same though.
Title: Re: Starters Tdi vs 16v
Post by: burn_your_money on November 22, 2012, 10:00:45 am
Quote from: bbob203 on November 22, 2012, 07:45:02 am
On rock auto looking at pics the 1z auto starter looks identical to an 020 1.6 starter. Standard trans starter definitely not the same though.

There is no such thing this side of the pond.