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Engine Specific Info and Questions => IDI Engine => Topic started by: Jetta33 on November 20, 2012, 12:52:33 pm
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Hey sorry im new and have been told about this site and will be useful info but.I can't find anything yet but here goes.
I am looking to swapping a 1.6td into my mk2 I have no idea what I need for the swap, and some easy upgrades on making it more "fun" and I am really sorry if you guys have answered this a million times, again im new to diesels and there for.would.much appreciate the info and advise.
Thanks
Patrick
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Hey sorry im new and have been told about this site and will be useful info but.I can't find anything yet but here goes.
I am looking to swapping a 1.6td into my mk2 I have no idea what I need for the swap, and some easy upgrades on making it more "fun" and I am really sorry if you guys have answered this a million times, again im new to diesels and there for.would.much appreciate the info and advise.
Thanks
Patrick
mk2s came factory with TD engines..
you might be able to find a donor, or whole swap..
(this is Glegor off vw whoretex, btw)
is your car gas or diesel right now? gas, correct?
BTW, 150hp is pretty easy to obtain...
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For the swap, from what I know, it's gas tank, fuel sender unit that goes in the tank, motor (obviously), depending on your tranny then possibly could leave it, diesel starter(more torque), wiring harnes, and cluster. Not sure about the fuses and relays, hopefully someone else adds that in.
I know I'm forgetting something...
GL with the swap, diesels are fun and easy to play with to get what you want.
Just remember, once you go clack, you never go back.
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For the swap, from what I know, it's gas tank, fuel sender unit that goes in the tank, motor (obviously), depending on your tranny then possibly could leave it, diesel starter(more torque), wiring harnes, and cluster. Not sure about the fuses and relays, hopefully someone else adds that in.
I know I'm forgetting something...
GL with the swap, diesels are fun and easy to play with to get what you want.
Just remember, once you go clack, you never go back.
leave the existing tank, and if its in good shape, you can even use your existing in-tank lift pump..
i deleted mine, and installed a diesel fuel pickup, and gutted the restrictor from the fill spout..
left the gasser fuel lines there too..
removed the ECU and harness, kept the gauge harness..
if you install a ABS relay into the fuel pump socket on the fuse panel, then you will be able to use that circuit to energize the fuel shut off..
the biggest headache i had, was my in-tank lift pump failing.. when they fail, you run out of fuel RIGHT NOW, unless your tank is plumb full..
just swapped a mk2 from gas to diesel this spring.. still pretty fresh in my mind if you have any specific questions..
ALSO, i had to add glow plug wiring.. made up a manual control system..
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Nope mines diesel, it's a n/a diesel that's why I want to swap it over.
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then drop in a TD motor. Easy. Possibly change your tranny unless you wanna put up with 3500 rpms doing 100k or 60mph
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Ill deffenetly be changing the tranny to a ACN so there for i just need the motor and thats it? Cause someone is telling me that i wont need the harness or ecu.
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then drop in a TD motor. Easy. Possibly change your tranny unless you wanna put up with 3500 rpms doing 100k or 60mph
Really? Worst case scenario, he's pushing 3100 with an AWY, and more likely in the 2600 range with an ACH or AGS. Even with my 4 speed I'm under 3500 at 100km/h. Diesel to diesel swaps are straight forward. Wiring is the same, and vw IDI diesels have no ECU. You will need the complete engine, rad & hoses (if you want the bigger rad), air-box, intake hose, and exhaust down-pipe. Everything else will carry over nicely.
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then drop in a TD motor. Easy. Possibly change your tranny unless you wanna put up with 3500 rpms doing 100k or 60mph
Really? Worst case scenario, he's pushing 3100 with an AWY, and more likely in the 2600 range with an ACH or AGS. Even with my 4 speed I'm under 3500 at 100km/h. Diesel to diesel swaps are straight forward. Wiring is the same, and vw IDI diesels have no ECU. You will need the complete engine, rad & hoses (if you want the bigger rad), air-box, intake hose, and exhaust down-pipe. Everything else will carry over nicely.
Alrighty sweet thanks and how do you tell what tranny you have in your car?
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Bottom front of the transmission there if a flat spot just down from the starter where the tabby end and engine starts, it should be engraved there.
And I have no idea what Tammy code this had but my friend had a winter beater 1.6 na and doing 120kmh it reved 3750 ish. Long drives on the highway you just felt bad for the pour little thing so you slowed down, good way not to get a speeding ticket I guess...
And you shouldn't need to change your rad, keep the lipped and lower rad hose if they are different. Come winter you won't regret it. There's another thread on here about that exact topic. You won't over heat the car.
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Okay thanks ill check it out once it gets light out and i dont plan on driving it in the winter.
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you can turbo a n/a engine no problem...
my engine is a CS vanagon engine.. they never came turbocharged..
ive not had ANY issues with a boosted n/a, and ive run 30+psi to mine more times than i can count..
or else swap a whole TD engine in the car..
a turbo kit will be the easiest tho..
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This is a quote >>>>>>>>>mk2s came factory with TD engines..
you might be able to find a donor, or whole swap..
(this is Glegor off vw whoretex, btw)
is your car gas or diesel right now? gas, correct?
BTW, 150hp is pretty easy to obtain... <<<<<<<<< Quote
For some strange reason, I could not get the "quote" to work!
Anyway, I'd like to see some pointers on how to take a 1.6l up to 150hp.
I have a .010 oversized bored Turbo block and pistons (turbo pistons) that I'd like to build to obtain the maximum HP and Torque as possible. I'm considering an aftermarket Turbo even though I have the OE turbo. I'd like to use an Intercooler set-up as well. At this point, I'm not sure what I plan to install the engine into........Vanagon, Caddy Pickup or a Jetta two-door coup!
I have a brand new IP for a non-Turbo. I am curious as to whether or not the "top part" of the Turbo Injection Pump can be installed on the New IP for turbo purposes? Does anyone know! Also, is there a difference in non-turbo Injectors and turbo injectors.
thanks!
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If you want a pile of info/links re: VW diesels, Go here: http://vincewaldon.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=blogsection&id=4&Itemid=26 (Such things as upgrading GP wiring, Engineering documents, part #s, etc.)
On my old 1.6TD, My Granddaughter had a weird problem: When winter cold, it would fire and immediately die, then when cranked again, it would spin like no compression. Guess what? It was a 'Hydraulic Lifter' engine, and when cold, the oil pressure would 'Spike', pumping the lifters and 'cracking' the valves. = No compression. Just thought I'd throw that in for fun!
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If you want a pile of info/links re: VW diesels, Go here: http://vincewaldon.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=blogsection&id=4&Itemid=26 (Such things as upgrading GP wiring, Engineering documents, part #s, etc.)
On my old 1.6TD, My Granddaughter had a weird problem: When winter cold, it would fire and immediately die, then when cranked again, it would spin like no compression. Guess what? It was a 'Hydraulic Lifter' engine, and when cold, the oil pressure would 'Spike', pumping the lifters and 'cracking' the valves. = No compression. Just thought I'd throw that in for fun!
Interesting! How cold are we talking? I have hydraulic lifters but have not experienced what you described. What kind of oil was in the engine? Dino or synthetic? Was the engine ever overheated, ran low on oil?
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do governor mod
upgrade intake
upgrade exhaust
increase boost
increase fueling
add pyro and boost gauges
advance timing over stock
add intercooler if over 15psi
any questions?
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For the swap, from what I know, it's gas tank, fuel sender unit that goes in the tank, motor (obviously), depending on your tranny then possibly could leave it, diesel starter(more torque), wiring harnes, and cluster. Not sure about the fuses and relays, hopefully someone else adds that in.
I know I'm forgetting something...
GL with the swap, diesels are fun and easy to play with to get what you want.
Just remember, once you go clack, you never go back.
leave the existing tank, and if its in good shape, you can even use your existing in-tank lift pump..
i deleted mine, and installed a diesel fuel pickup, and gutted the restrictor from the fill spout..
left the gasser fuel lines there too..
removed the ECU and harness, kept the gauge harness..
if you install a ABS relay into the fuel pump socket on the fuse panel, then you will be able to use that circuit to energize the fuel shut off..
the biggest headache i had, was my in-tank lift pump failing.. when they fail, you run out of fuel RIGHT NOW, unless your tank is plumb full..
just swapped a mk2 from gas to diesel this spring.. still pretty fresh in my mind if you have any specific questions..
ALSO, i had to add glow plug wiring.. made up a manual control system..
Is this your 92 GLI Jetta? Is that the best/ latest year gasser MK2 Jetta? How much is a rust free example in exc condition worth? Since diesel MK2 Jetta's are rare and hard to find in exc condition, I am considering doing a swap also.