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Title: considering buying this car, your thoughts?
Post by: keaton on July 07, 2012, 08:37:14 am
as the title says..... I want a diesel car but I've been kinda picky in what I want... was trying to find a 2004/2005 jetta with a 5speed or a clean mk2.
this is what I found

http://phoenix.craigslist.org/wvl/cto/3114689399.html

miles are unknown, he says the odometer stopped working at 250k  :-[
and doesn't seem to want to flex on the price, IMO that is a very high price for that car

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1991McWilliams mk2 Jetta turbo diesel idi similar to Tdi . Started as a very rare eco td diesel. 1.6td. Pump was upgraded to a true td pump, not the weak Eco one. The turbo was upgraded from a k14 to a k24(same size as a t3 but spools 250 rpm sooner). Brand new head less than 50 mi timing belt is also almost new. Ac is cold. Very rare hard to find car. Crosshatch was still good no blow by. Turbo has ZERO play almost new. New front struts. New clutch all shift bushing and brackets replaced tightest mk2 trans you will drive. Currently the car runs at the stock psi , but with the current upgrades you are looking closer to 25hp over stock. With current upgrades the car is good for 15-18 psi. Wife decided to keep her car instead of driving this one..... Thousands spend to get it this far. Passed emissions with flying colors on sat. 45mpg at 70mph. If you don't know about vw diesels do some research before calling this is a good deal!  please no scammers or low ballers/Craigslist flippers. Car is a 1991 it's really clean for a 1991 but remember its not a 2012. ie has some clear peeling and some minor dings.
Title: Re: considering buying this car, your thoughts?
Post by: libbydiesel on July 07, 2012, 08:54:32 am
If the body is clean and straight/rust free, the interior is in good condition and it handles/stops well then I think that's a very reasonable or even excellent price for that car.  There are things in the add that aren't accurate, but nothing extreme.  

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The turbo was upgraded from a k14 to a k24(same size as a t3 but spools 250 rpm sooner).
The K24 is a downgrade from the K14 at stock boost pressures and doesn't spool any faster than the T3.

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Currently the car runs at the stock psi , but with the current upgrades you are looking closer to 25hp over stock.
 
The addition of the turbo pump will result in 15 more horses, not 25 and there's nothing else mentioned that will result in additional power.  If the exhaust wasn't swapped out at the same time, the cat will be plugged.  Regardless, the ECO exhaust is too small, IMO, and should be swapped out from turbo back.

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With current upgrades the car is good for 15-18 psi.
Running more than 15 psi without adding an intercooler is counter-productive.

The only other piece I'd add is that personally, I'd rather have a hatchback (golf/rabbit) or a wagon (quantum) but that's just personal taste and the appreciation of being able to load up larger items more easily.  I'm enjoying my current mk1 rabbit more than I ever did my mk2 jetta.



Title: Re: considering buying this car, your thoughts?
Post by: keaton on July 07, 2012, 09:49:07 am

The addition of the turbo pump will result in 15 more horses, not 25 and there's nothing else mentioned that will result in additional power.  If the exhaust wasn't swapped out at the same time, the cat will be plugged.  Regardless, the ECO exhaust is too small, IMO, and should be swapped out from turbo back.

he said the exhaust is still the eco exhaust  :-\
Title: Re: considering buying this car, your thoughts?
Post by: theman53 on July 07, 2012, 09:58:29 am
I think that is a fair price for that car. I would be interested in why the head was new as there could be more problems than is being let on. As bent rod from hydrolock or it could have been just weeping oil and the HG needed changed. I would ask for the test drive and see if you think it is worth it or not.
IMHO I own one MK2 and have owned several MKI and I do not like the handling and suspension of the MKI. To me the MK2 seems more like a Cadillac and MKI seems more like a go cart.

Also, see if he still has the K14 and any other spare parts. Depending on what kind of driving you do you may want them.
Title: Re: considering buying this car, your thoughts?
Post by: keaton on July 07, 2012, 10:19:40 am
well i guess its all a mute point now, I started asking this guy a bunch of questions and his response was:

"As of now it's not for sale to u"


... k
Title: Re: considering buying this car, your thoughts?
Post by: 8v-of-fury on July 07, 2012, 10:45:45 am
well i guess its all a mute point now, I started asking this guy a bunch of questions and his response was:

"As of now it's not for sale to u"


... k

excuse me? What a douche-canoe.
Title: Re: considering buying this car, your thoughts?
Post by: libbydiesel on July 07, 2012, 10:54:10 am
Ducked that bullet then I guess...
Title: Re: considering buying this car, your thoughts?
Post by: CrazyAndy on July 07, 2012, 11:01:22 am
well i guess its all a mute point now, I started asking this guy a bunch of questions and his response was:

"As of now it's not for sale to u"


... k

Uh yeeeeeeeeeahh . . . . what a jerk. Still, nice sounding car though if it is/was all good.
Title: Re: considering buying this car, your thoughts?
Post by: Wayland on July 07, 2012, 11:40:42 am
well i guess its all a mute point now, I started asking this guy a bunch of questions and his response was:

"As of now it's not for sale to u"


... k

So it's only for sale to someone who won't ask questions and doesn't want to test drive it?    Uhhh.........OK.
Title: Re: considering buying this car, your thoughts?
Post by: bbob203 on July 07, 2012, 01:37:25 pm
my opinion you don't buy these cars for the milage you buy them for the body. if the body is solid anything else is a piece of cake to get sqaured away.
Title: Re: considering buying this car, your thoughts?
Post by: Blocksmith on July 07, 2012, 05:55:01 pm
Well, yes and no. The body can be as solid as the day is long, but there could still be a number of rather serious issues to deal with, which could quite expensive to correct. Having said that, though, I do consider myself fortunate for having been able to find and purchase a nearly rust free rabbit. I guess what I'm trying to say is this--the body is probably the most important aspect, yes, but heaven help you if everything else is messed up.  You'll potentially spend thousands correcting mechanical problems in the motor and drivetrain if the car hasn't been properly maintained.
Title: Re: considering buying this car, your thoughts?
Post by: mystery3 on July 07, 2012, 10:31:09 pm
Too much money. MkII don't rust here at all and are a dime a dozen. Look at this for example:
http://sfbay.craigslist.org/sfc/cto/3124424347.html

I know there are no pics but gli for what $1600 and you have $1600 left for your diesel swap.
Title: Re: considering buying this car, your thoughts?
Post by: keaton on July 08, 2012, 02:17:18 am
this only gets better.

 the guy says the oil light is on. checks it with a gauge (bit higher the spec) then asks me what wrong with the car ......

uuuummmmm  ???  ::)
Title: Re: considering buying this car, your thoughts?
Post by: flowmastergfunk on July 08, 2012, 06:39:32 am
There is your chance! Tell him "As of now, I can't help you with your problem...but I will give you $2k for it since that light is on"

After being so rude it would be pretty hard not to roast him. Trust your gut feeling though. If you play nice he might actually come down in price. I think it sounds like a pretty nice car but his actions make it sounds kinda fishy.

Also, since when would an old diesel need to pass an emissions test? One of my favorite things about our diesels is that we don't have to worry about getting them smogged! I guess Arizona is different?
Title: Re: considering buying this car, your thoughts?
Post by: bbob203 on July 08, 2012, 07:10:09 am
There is your chance! Tell him "As of now, I can't help you with your problem...but I will give you $2k for it since that light is on"

After being so rude it would be pretty hard not to roast him. Trust your gut feeling though. If you play nice he might actually come down in price. I think it sounds like a pretty nice car but his actions make it sounds kinda fishy.

Also, since when would an old diesel need to pass an emissions test? One of my favorite things about our diesels is that we don't have to worry about getting them smogged! I guess Arizona is different?

this!
Title: Re: considering buying this car, your thoughts?
Post by: CrazyAndy on July 08, 2012, 07:47:11 am
There is your chance! Tell him "As of now, I can't help you with your problem...but I will give you $2k for it since that light is on"

After being so rude it would be pretty hard not to roast him. Trust your gut feeling though. If you play nice he might actually come down in price. I think it sounds like a pretty nice car but his actions make it sounds kinda fishy.

Also, since when would an old diesel need to pass an emissions test? One of my favorite things about our diesels is that we don't have to worry about getting them smogged! I guess Arizona is different?

this!

and that!
Title: Re: considering buying this car, your thoughts?
Post by: ORCoaster on July 08, 2012, 01:20:12 pm
Sounds to me the guy has few takers and has a fish on the line that he is playing for information.  He knows you know diesels better than he does and is trying to fix all the untold troubles that keep this car in his drive and his bank account short of a few grand. 

Now do you really want to buy this car or just want to drive him crazy.  What an opportunity to make him crazy!  But I know you wouldn't do that, now would you. 

Seems strange that he still has the tiny pipe on the engine he wants power out of.  Is he thinking this out or not? 

Have fun with it.  Let us know if he calls again.  My guess is he has your number and that you're his knight in shining armor. 

DAS
Title: Re: considering buying this car, your thoughts?
Post by: TD_Bunny on July 09, 2012, 10:29:56 pm
man, should just sell you my rabbit lol. Body has less than 100K miles on. Dropped in a 1.7TD i bought off of here. Plus I already rebuilt the T3 turbo from a shop in AK and paid for a Giles pump dialed in for 14PSI ;D Heck, I am not even that far away lol. Just need to figure out why my AC doesnt kick on even though I can jump it and the clutch kicks in no prob. Way too hot up in PHX with no AC