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Engine Specific Info and Questions => IDI Engine => Topic started by: steevz on July 27, 2011, 06:24:14 pm

Title: 1.6 NA and 1.9 TD.. few questions.
Post by: steevz on July 27, 2011, 06:24:14 pm
So I have a 1.6 NA that's a good driver in excellent shape. I am wanting to turbo it.. I've read reviews that say NO and some that say it's fine.

I also just got a 1.9 TD that's running great today for a parts car. Body is in terrible shape.. I was wondering if I could put the 1.9 head and turbo on my 1.6 and maybe I'll switch the pump too? Please I'd like some insight from some of the pros on the forum.

Thanks,
steevz
Title: Re: 1.6 NA and 1.9 TD.. few questions.
Post by: 8v-of-fury on July 27, 2011, 07:03:03 pm
if you've got the complete 1.6 and the complete 1.9 just swap the engines. You'll be in for the same amount of work to swap the heads and ***, so why not just do the whole shebang? :D:D
Title: Re: 1.6 NA and 1.9 TD.. few questions.
Post by: steevz on July 27, 2011, 07:59:10 pm
I was thinking that.. but if swapping the whole things I think the 1.9 should be rebuilt. It has high kms and I know the 1.9 are notorious for the crank issues later in life.

Which would make this a big job, right? Can the 1.6 block not take the turbo and 1.9 head, also the pump?
Title: Re: 1.6 NA and 1.9 TD.. few questions.
Post by: Wayland on July 27, 2011, 10:06:05 pm
High kms don't necessarily mean a worn out motor. I have an AAZ with 390,000 on it, still with 450psi compression. It's easy to remove the lower timing sprocket and inspect the crank. Not all of them go bad. Mine was still in as new cond. when I inspected it.
Title: Re: 1.6 NA and 1.9 TD.. few questions.
Post by: burn_your_money on July 28, 2011, 10:31:55 am
What year is your NA? Is it hydraulic or solid?
Title: Re: 1.6 NA and 1.9 TD.. few questions.
Post by: steevz on July 28, 2011, 06:21:36 pm
It is a 1990.

Yes, the AAZ has 391k on it too.. will inspect this weekend. As for swapping engines.. are there any good write ups on this with everything I'm going to need to change over?
Title: Re: 1.6 NA and 1.9 TD.. few questions.
Post by: burn_your_money on July 28, 2011, 06:55:52 pm
If it's 90 you can swap the head and other pieces over. The oil filter stand won't fit the 1.6 block but you can modify yours on the NA or it might already have the port needed for the turbo oil feed.

It's pretty much a direct swap unless you have power steering or AC

If it's a golf you'll really want to swap trannys.
Title: Re: 1.6 NA and 1.9 TD.. few questions.
Post by: 8v-of-fury on July 28, 2011, 06:57:55 pm
Depends where in BC you live as to whether or not he's gonna wanna put that 1.9 head on the 1.6 block, with the cold starts.. eh?
Title: Re: 1.6 NA and 1.9 TD.. few questions.
Post by: steevz on July 28, 2011, 09:20:48 pm
I live in Vancouver. Not too cold.. I think I'm just going to do a full swap. I'd like to probably replace some gaskets and seals on the 1.9. Upon visual inspection you can see oil down around the oil dipstick. But not from the dipstick O ring. They're both Jettas. 90 and 96.
Title: Re: 1.6 NA and 1.9 TD.. few questions.
Post by: RabbitJockey on July 29, 2011, 01:56:57 pm
if the aaz is in good running order, i'd swap the trans and all, just throw in a new clutch and reseal the transmission while its out, and put a new pilot bushing in. also theres nothing wrong with turboing an na engine.  i always kind of wanted to build a highly built na engine just to be dumb.
Title: Re: 1.6 NA and 1.9 TD.. few questions.
Post by: steevz on July 29, 2011, 08:21:33 pm
Hmm.. okay, well I've decided to do the swap. Anyone know what I will or SHOULD replace during the swap?
Title: Re: 1.6 NA and 1.9 TD.. few questions.
Post by: steevz on July 30, 2011, 09:06:51 am
So how heavy are the aaz's? Should I be able to remove it without an engine hoist? I don't have one and don't really want to buy one for just swapping one engine..
Title: Re: 1.6 NA and 1.9 TD.. few questions.
Post by: 8v-of-fury on July 30, 2011, 09:12:36 am
Heh, by yourself? Noo wayy, unless your secretly The Great Khali lmao.

With the trans and fluids, I'd say they weigh easy 500+lbs. EASY. My bro and I lifted a 1.6TD out of pickup bed to the ground last month, turbo, mani's, trans, and fluids.. Almost friggan died. 3 guys and a 4x4 of wood shouldn't be too bad
Title: Re: 1.6 NA and 1.9 TD.. few questions.
Post by: R.O.R-2.0 on July 30, 2011, 09:29:54 am
Heh, by yourself? Noo wayy, unless your secretly The Great Khali lmao.

With the trans and fluids, I'd say they weigh easy 500+lbs. EASY. My bro and I lifted a 1.6TD out of pickup bed to the ground last month, turbo, mani's, trans, and fluids.. Almost friggan died. 3 guys and a 4x4 of wood shouldn't be too bad

engine & trans are around 350 lbs.. trans is about 80 lbs, and engine is 225 lbs or so..
Title: Re: 1.6 NA and 1.9 TD.. few questions.
Post by: RabbitJockey on July 30, 2011, 01:23:47 pm
engine hoist at harborfreight is 100 dollars?  its worth it really.  or u could use a come along in the rafters of a garage, thats how i've done it in the past
Title: Re: 1.6 NA and 1.9 TD.. few questions.
Post by: steevz on July 30, 2011, 04:38:07 pm
Alright.. So, I think I'm just going to swap over the turbo and pump for now. Try it.
That way I can just remove the head, then the body, then the trans.. or else just get a hoist. I like to replace all the gaskets in the head anyways.

I bought an EGT gauge, anyone know the best place to install the probe?
Title: Re: 1.6 NA and 1.9 TD.. few questions.
Post by: vanbcguy on July 31, 2011, 12:33:55 pm
You can rent a hoist from quite a few places here in town.  Won't cost you much.  If you need one more than 5 or 6 times you might as well just buy one but if you're only doing it a couple of times then the rental route is perfect (plus you don't have to store the damn thing!)

We rented from A&B Tool Rentals before...
Title: Re: 1.6 NA and 1.9 TD.. few questions.
Post by: steevz on July 31, 2011, 06:44:53 pm
Sweet. I actually picked up a mk2 Golf today cause I love them! Going to keep my 1.6 NA and I'm going to put the 1.9 TD into it! Stoked.