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Title: MK1 rabbit turbo build!
Post by: monomer on April 01, 2011, 07:42:43 pm
I've been collecting parts for this rabbit for a couple years now, and have lost a lot of links, and missed a lot of good posts.


Parts sofar:
-Gapless Rings
-Kolbenschmit TD pistons
-Block overbored for above pistons
-Big oil pump
-Oil filter assembly with extra port
-Crankcase windage tray
-ARP hardware for head, mains and rods
-Resized rods, arps installed
-Upgraded mains bearings
-T3 8v manifold exhaust.
-T3, 52 mm (I think....) from M-B 300d
-G60 Intake
-DSM side stock side mount IC
-A-S Exhaust temp gauge, probe


Right now, next in the works is a 1.9 IP, adding Oil squirters (already purchased) and MLS head gasket. Possibly a 1.9 head.


After that, Giles superpump and meth injection. After that - body work and suspension/wheels.




It's gonna be an autocross/ road rally car, I feel as if I'm missing a few parts here....
Title: Re: MK1 rabbit turbo build!
Post by: rallydiesel on April 01, 2011, 08:42:13 pm
Why are you doing the 1.9 IP? Why not just put the 1.9 camplate in the 1.6 IP and retain the adjustability of the 1.6 pump.
Title: Re: MK1 rabbit turbo build!
Post by: Powered by Spearco on April 01, 2011, 09:29:28 pm
Kind of sounds like my engine build except for the pump. Gonna be bad A$$.
Title: Re: MK1 rabbit turbo build!
Post by: nathan_b on April 01, 2011, 09:53:30 pm
1.9 head is worth is, with my k14 and straight exhaust I have the stock 1.6td pump as high as it can go, smoke screw in all the way, idling at 1100, low as it goes, star wheel like 1/4inch AWAY from the spring so and boost gives full boost fueling. Not a speck of dark smoke, only a light haze, tons of power, egts super low, can't get it above 1100 running wot up a hill at 80mph for 3 min, mild gov mod, 2.25in straight dp, fantastic little bugger, at max fueling tune I get 40mpg on my mixed commute of 15 miles ;)
Title: Re: MK1 rabbit turbo build!
Post by: R.O.R-2.0 on April 02, 2011, 08:24:19 am
1.9 head is worth is, with my k14 and straight exhaust I have the stock 1.6td pump as high as it can go, smoke screw in all the way, idling at 1100, low as it goes, star wheel like 1/4inch AWAY from the spring so and boost gives full boost fueling. Not a speck of dark smoke, only a light haze, tons of power, egts super low, can't get it above 1100 running wot up a hill at 80mph for 3 min, mild gov mod, 2.25in straight dp, fantastic little bugger, at max fueling tune I get 40mpg on my mixed commute of 15 miles ;)

you do know that all you have to do to get your fuel screw to go in farther without becoming the idle adjustment?

turn your accelerator arm 1 spline CCW on the splines of the throttle shaft..

then you can adjust your idle, and turn the max fuel screw in a couple more turns..
Title: Re: MK1 rabbit turbo build!
Post by: monomer on April 02, 2011, 02:09:58 pm
Why are you doing the 1.9 IP? Why not just put the 1.9 camplate in the 1.6 IP and retain the adjustability of the 1.6 pump.

1.9TD pumps are easier to find?


Depends on what I end up finding, I suppose. It's going to giles for tuning regardless.
Title: Re: MK1 rabbit turbo build!
Post by: nathan_b on April 02, 2011, 04:20:04 pm
1.9 head is worth is, with my k14 and straight exhaust I have the stock 1.6td pump as high as it can go, smoke screw in all the way, idling at 1100, low as it goes, star wheel like 1/4inch AWAY from the spring so and boost gives full boost fueling. Not a speck of dark smoke, only a light haze, tons of power, egts super low, can't get it above 1100 running wot up a hill at 80mph for 3 min, mild gov mod, 2.25in straight dp, fantastic little bugger, at max fueling tune I get 40mpg on my mixed commute of 15 miles ;)

you do know that all you have to do to get your fuel screw to go in farther without becoming the idle adjustment?

turn your accelerator arm 1 spline CCW on the splines of the throttle shaft..

then you can adjust your idle, and turn the max fuel screw in a couple more turns..

yeah, throttle arm rotated, accelerator stop thing on throttle arm adjusted for lowest idle.
I guess I am as far as I can go without actual pump mods and not adjustment. And I still need to intercool..
Title: Re: MK1 rabbit turbo build!
Post by: macka on April 02, 2011, 04:24:34 pm
Why are you doing the 1.9 IP? Why not just put the 1.9 camplate in the 1.6 IP and retain the adjustability of the 1.6 pump.

1.9TD pumps are easier to find?


Depends on what I end up finding, I suppose. It's going to giles for tuning regardless.


You cross the bridge or go through the tunnel into windsor and you have 1.9 parts galor
Title: Re: MK1 rabbit turbo build!
Post by: R.O.R-2.0 on April 02, 2011, 06:51:36 pm
1.9 head is worth is, with my k14 and straight exhaust I have the stock 1.6td pump as high as it can go, smoke screw in all the way, idling at 1100, low as it goes, star wheel like 1/4inch AWAY from the spring so and boost gives full boost fueling. Not a speck of dark smoke, only a light haze, tons of power, egts super low, can't get it above 1100 running wot up a hill at 80mph for 3 min, mild gov mod, 2.25in straight dp, fantastic little bugger, at max fueling tune I get 40mpg on my mixed commute of 15 miles ;)

you do know that all you have to do to get your fuel screw to go in farther without becoming the idle adjustment?

turn your accelerator arm 1 spline CCW on the splines of the throttle shaft..

then you can adjust your idle, and turn the max fuel screw in a couple more turns..

yeah, throttle arm rotated, accelerator stop thing on throttle arm adjusted for lowest idle.
I guess I am as far as I can go without actual pump mods and not adjustment. And I still need to intercool..

no, your not turned up as far as the pump allows you to be unless your governor hangs.. i had to back my fuel screw out a little, and i still had idle adjustment left. i rotated it 2 splines CCW.. i gots lots of fuel now..

you got more left in the pump if you have the idle adjust backed all the way out and you have to set the idle with the fuel screw..
Title: Re: MK1 rabbit turbo build!
Post by: nathan_b on April 02, 2011, 09:33:55 pm
will give this another go at moving splines on the throttle lever, was hoping this wasn't all the stock pump had in her,  :)
thanks,

didn't mean to mini hijack OP, my bad
Title: Re: MK1 rabbit turbo build!
Post by: monomer on April 04, 2011, 07:44:14 pm
will give this another go at moving splines on the throttle lever, was hoping this wasn't all the stock pump had in her,  :)
thanks,

didn't mean to mini hijack OP, my bad


Hey, I learned something. It's all good.



Need to come up with a fuller list of everything I have to post up. I know theirs more laying about.

So, right now the main things are: IP, Head, IC plumbing, DP/exhaust, FMIC and getting the 421k mile t3 rebuilt....
Title: Re: MK1 rabbit turbo build!
Post by: deepgrooves74 on April 08, 2011, 04:15:48 am
This all sounds similar to my build! A1 Rabbit (have to say it that way these days with the new imposter that came out a couple of years ago...)

I have a solid lifter motor though... not 'til after I built her did I know that Hydro was the way to go... trying to get a metal gasket for the motor, but I haven't found anything yet... ARP head studs(12mm)... I have Kobelschmidt .40 as well... running GTD injectors, stock head, TT 2.25 DP, 2.25 back no muffler, air to water IC. I (for now) am running the stock turbo that I have. Already tapped the exhaust mani for Egt sensor, and I am looking for a water/meth inj set-up to spray into the intake runners... I have several a1 intake manis that I am considering using, and welding on a flange for my IC tubing. Also I have a IC external sprayer as well that is computer controlled based on engine compartment temps, IC temps, and Load (which I am going to turn into an OT switched circuit that I am having Giles set-up for me...

I am very interested in your build... looking forward to see your progress... I started mine on Vortex...
http://forums.vwvortex.com/showthread.php?4056111-My-83-Rabbit-TD-SVO-Build (http://forums.vwvortex.com/showthread.php?4056111-My-83-Rabbit-TD-SVO-Build)
Title: Re: MK1 rabbit turbo build!
Post by: monomer on April 08, 2011, 03:50:23 pm
This all sounds similar to my build! A1 Rabbit (have to say it that way these days with the new imposter that came out a couple of years ago...)

I have a solid lifter motor though... not 'til after I built her did I know that Hydro was the way to go... trying to get a metal gasket for the motor, but I haven't found anything yet... ARP head studs(12mm)... I have Kobelschmidt .40 as well... running GTD injectors, stock head, TT 2.25 DP, 2.25 back no muffler, air to water IC. I (for now) am running the stock turbo that I have. Already tapped the exhaust mani for Egt sensor, and I am looking for a water/meth inj set-up to spray into the intake runners... I have several a1 intake manis that I am considering using, and welding on a flange for my IC tubing. Also I have a IC external sprayer as well that is computer controlled based on engine compartment temps, IC temps, and Load (which I am going to turn into an OT switched circuit that I am having Giles set-up for me...

I am very interested in your build... looking forward to see your progress... I started mine on Vortex...
http://forums.vwvortex.com/showthread.php?4056111-My-83-Rabbit-TD-SVO-Build (http://forums.vwvortex.com/showthread.php?4056111-My-83-Rabbit-TD-SVO-Build)


NICE idea with the engine stand. I might steal that.
Title: Re: MK1 rabbit turbo build!
Post by: deepgrooves74 on November 26, 2013, 06:49:45 pm
I've been collecting parts for this rabbit for a couple years now, and have lost a lot of links, and missed a lot of good posts.


Parts sofar:
-Gapless Rings
-Kolbenschmit TD pistons
-Block overbored for above pistons
-Big oil pump
-Oil filter assembly with extra port
-Crankcase windage tray
-ARP hardware for head, mains and rods
-Resized rods, arps installed
-Upgraded mains bearings
-T3 8v manifold exhaust.
-T3, 52 mm (I think....) from M-B 300d
-G60 Intake
-DSM side stock side mount IC
-A-S Exhaust temp gauge, probe


Right now, next in the works is a 1.9 IP, adding Oil squirters (already purchased) and MLS head gasket. Possibly a 1.9 head.


After that, Giles superpump and meth injection. After that - body work and suspension/wheels.




It's gonna be an autocross/ road rally car, I feel as if I'm missing a few parts here....


where is this build? Did you ever finish it? Just curious how it all turned out!
Title: Re: MK1 rabbit turbo build!
Post by: monomer on December 04, 2013, 05:52:38 pm
Nope. I wanted to DD the car so it got a n/a put back in, only to have the stock clutch go 40 miles later (my fault for not checking) That trans is solid, I put in a spec stage 3.5 6puck (brutal) and then put it down for winter, just after buying new rubber for it's OEM bottlecaps.

In the process I've collected a few parts: Evo8 FMIC, Different 1.6TD block (mk2 ecodiesel), stock 1.6TD turbo setup (from Whitbreads shop) along with a DP.

Whats left: Pump, Head, intakes bits and some fab. Need to also strip that block and get it punched out. Send the cam out for regrind.


I'm also having a bit of a problem with the shifter linkage setup, needs a few new bushing and shifter base not included in the USRT kit. 1st and reverse were right ontop of another: I almost got me a brand new dodge charger on the test drive!


Time and money. Doing it right aint cheap!
Title: Re: MK1 rabbit turbo build!
Post by: CrazyAndy on December 06, 2013, 07:59:41 pm
I know the feeling; 3 years on my AAZ build for my own '81 and she's still on the path.  Keep going; you sound like you're doing it 100% right!  You still going Giles for the IP?
Title: Re: MK1 rabbit turbo build!
Post by: monomer on December 14, 2013, 06:21:43 pm
I know the feeling; 3 years on my AAZ build for my own '81 and she's still on the path.  Keep going; you sound like you're doing it 100% right!  You still going Giles for the IP?

Thanks!


yeah,  about 5 years owning this car so far. its killing me not driving it. I do want a giles ip and injector setup, mostly because he does it right and has the proper testing equipment. it might get a stock td ip just to br able to drive it for now.

I do plan on autocrossing it, so I'm really debating suspension and brake parts and chassis work. mk1s are flimsy!
Title: Re: MK1 rabbit turbo build!
Post by: spencebm on December 15, 2013, 06:25:00 am
I have run coilovers and poly bushings only on my rabbit rally crossing it and it stiffened it up a lot!  I want to see pics or this car isn't real!
Title: Re: MK1 rabbit turbo build!
Post by: monomer on December 19, 2013, 05:58:11 pm
I have run coilovers and poly bushings only on my rabbit rally crossing it and it stiffened it up a lot!  I want to see pics or this car isn't real!

theirs a couple in the rides section.

its just got bottle caps and louvers on the hatch now. classic mk1.

it really needs a duckbill/gti front facia and euro bumpers. I'm keeping the squares.