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General Information => Upgrades (non engine related ) => Topic started by: HMTurbo on March 21, 2011, 04:39:04 am
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I am running a 1.6d gearbox, which is the best short shifter to get?
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http://www.4crawler.com/Diesel/ForSale/ShiftLinkage.shtml
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by how much does it reduce the throw?
anyother ones out there?
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its a solid kit. If I were you though, I'd get the short throw kit, upgrade the shifter liankages and get an A3 weighted shifter from the junk yard or from the stealership. A lot of the ebay weighted shifters are over priced.
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I think that USRT has them too. They are a kit that you put together and can adjust all angles.
Heres a link to a kit at BFI.
http://store.blackforestindustries.com/ussmlifab.html (http://store.blackforestindustries.com/ussmlifab.html).
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The missing linkz kit I posted has 0 25% and 50% throw reduction depending on where you put it.
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Yep, basic short throw arm has 2 settings as noted above and below:
- http://www.4crawler.com/Diesel/ForSale/ShiftLinkage.shtml#ShortThrow
Or there is a fully adjustable version with a slotted arm:
- http://www.4crawler.com/Diesel/ForSale/ShiftLinkage.shtml#AdjShortThrow
(http://www.4crawler.com/Diesel/ForSale/Images/shiftkit_35.jpg)
(http://www.4crawler.com/Diesel/ForSale/Images/shiftkit_37.jpg)
That is about as long as you can go:
(http://www.4crawler.com/Diesel/ForSale/Images/shiftkit_47.jpg)
You can also drill a shorter hole on the selector lever on the transaxle, although this can have some negative aspects as well:
- http://www.4crawler.com/Diesel/ForSale/ShiftLinkage.shtml#FAQ11
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I think that USRT has them too. They are a kit that you put together and can adjust all angles.
Heres a link to a kit at BFI.
http://store.blackforestindustries.com/ussmlifab.html (http://store.blackforestindustries.com/ussmlifab.html).
I have this kit, looks awsome, its just waiting to go back in with my engine soon hopefully, Got it on ebay for $140
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I think that USRT has them too. They are a kit that you put together and can adjust all angles.
Heres a link to a kit at BFI.
http://store.blackforestindustries.com/ussmlifab.html (http://store.blackforestindustries.com/ussmlifab.html).
I have this kit, looks awsome, its just waiting to go back in with my engine soon hopefully, Got it on ebay for $140
And this is a direct bolt on for the 1.6td?
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I think that USRT has them too. They are a kit that you put together and can adjust all angles.
Heres a link to a kit at BFI.
http://store.blackforestindustries.com/ussmlifab.html (http://store.blackforestindustries.com/ussmlifab.html).
I have this kit, looks awsome, its just waiting to go back in with my engine soon hopefully, Got it on ebay for $140
And this is a direct bolt on for the 1.6td?
the 1.6 TD has nothing to do with it, unless it has some goofy shaped downpipe.. it will fit any 020 equipped vehicle pretty much..
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And this is a direct bolt on for the 1.6td?
the 1.6 TD has nothing to do with it, unless it has some goofy shaped downpipe.. it will fit any 020 equipped vehicle pretty much..
Thanks. It looks sexy as all get out. I am getting ready to do the clutch with the eurospec lightened flywheel kit from BFI, and the 1st gear is gettin a little sloppy, so was thinking upgrade. But am weary of just buying the first thing I see that looks cool, so its good to see other members of the forum vouching for shiz Im looking to do to the Eco.
Also, thanks for the tip on the Audi 5000 badge. You have been most helpful as of late with a lot of things I have been doing to this car. Seriously, thanks.
She is just making sure its the right temp for you...
(http://i228.photobucket.com/albums/ee139/jacb04/hofbrau.jpg)
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And this is a direct bolt on for the 1.6td?
the 1.6 TD has nothing to do with it, unless it has some goofy shaped downpipe.. it will fit any 020 equipped vehicle pretty much..
Thanks. It looks sexy as all get out. I am getting ready to do the clutch with the eurospec lightened flywheel kit from BFI, and the 1st gear is gettin a little sloppy, so was thinking upgrade. But am weary of just buying the first thing I see that looks cool, so its good to see other members of the forum vouching for shiz Im looking to do to the Eco.
Also, thanks for the tip on the Audi 5000 badge. You have been most helpful as of late with a lot of things I have been doing to this car. Seriously, thanks.
She is just making sure its the right temp for you...
(http://i228.photobucket.com/albums/ee139/jacb04/hofbrau.jpg)
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i would avoid the lightened flywheel.. a gasser flywheel is lighter than a diesel flywheel.. so if you wanna go with a lightened, go with a stock gasser flywheel..
these are all examples:
say the stock diesel FW weighs 20 lbs, well the gasser wheel will weigh like 15 lbs, and the lightened wheel will weigh about 12 lbs..
see what im saying here? use stock pieces and get the same effect? using too light of a flywheel on a diesel will make it idle a lil rougher, and have quite a bit less low end power.. been there, done that, thats why i say the gasser flywheel works good. cheaper too.
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Wtf? I thought that the less rotating mass you have on the engine, the better? For all applications? Lease explain? Cause the flywheel is already here. Will be posting a pic soon for help with marking tdc.
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Well, if you have a high revving gas engine, yes lighter is better, lets the engine wind up faster. Lets the engine wind up faster and all that. On a slower revving diesel, a heavier flywheel well help to smooth out the rough diesel idle and help with low end torque. When I did a new flywheel on my 1.9, I went with the OEM 210mm gas part. My thoughts were that if I had the choice of making a lower speed, slower revving diesel engine perhaps rev up a little faster (but nowhere near as fast as a small gas engine), or smoothing out the lumpy idle and increasing the pull off the line, I went with the latter.
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gotta remember that your diesel, with a governor mod, only turns ~5800
and if no governor mod, 4800 rpms..
you dont need a light flywheel to get you to 5800..
i can notice a light flywheel on a diesel pretty easily. but a heavy flywheel, you dont really get any ill effects from it. power isnt any slower..
diesels are a lazy engine by nature.. they dont need a light flywheel. its kinda counter-productive if you ask me.
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diesels are a lazy engine by nature.. they dont need a light flywheel. its kinda counter-productive if you ask me.
I dispute these claims. Its only the governed de-tuned state in which Vw designed them, that is lazy. Sure most stock diesels are a little anemic and cant get out of their own way, but thats not entirely true.. The bigger I6 Cummins, V8 ford and chevy's can pull their rpm ranges pretty quickly (for a V8), because they have the torque to do so. Go outside and floor your car in neutral, you hit roller skipping rpm in a second. The same is not true with a load on the engine because there simply isn't the power to do so. Sure a gas engine can pull that range quicker BUT wot is wot, the fuel isn't governed. Take the governor out of the equation and these little diesels will pull the rpms right along side a similar hp/tq engine, say that of a 1.6 carb or 1.7 mfi. /threadjack
But yes generally a lighter flywheel is of choice so that you have less rotating mass when way up high, something you'll never see on your diesel.
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I had thought about the higher revving gassers and how it helps them. My logic was that since I only have roughly 5500 rpms to play with, I should make that as easy as possible for the engine. I'm still gonna throw it in, Ill let you know how it goes.
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IMO, go for the lighter flywheel. It really made a big difference in my son's 1.6td.
He had 1.9 IP and injectors, D24 turbo at 2.5-ish bar, 3' dp to start with and then he shaved something like 3kg of the flywheel.
Here's a few years old clip of the car when he was playing a bit with a V70R. (sorry for the bad quality)
http://www.garaget.org/video/1vqv02k4ns9f (http://www.garaget.org/video/1vqv02k4ns9f)
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Funny you should mention this. I've been toying with the idea of putting the flywheel from my gasser donor onto my diesel when I swap out the transmission.
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I think that USRT has them too. They are a kit that you put together and can adjust all angles.
Heres a link to a kit at BFI.
http://store.blackforestindustries.com/ussmlifab.html (http://store.blackforestindustries.com/ussmlifab.html).
I have this kit, looks awsome, its just waiting to go back in with my engine soon hopefully, Got it on ebay for $140
Finally got to use it and it works great! definatley would recommend this to anyone who wants to upgrade there stock, sloppy linkage
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Well, finally got the 4sp tranny out, and getting the 5sp prepped to go back in.
Ordered this:
(http://www.4crawler.com/Diesel/ForSale/Images/shiftkit_24.jpg)
Sad thing is, when I disconnected the driver's side drive shaft, the half-shaft that connects to the differential came apart and the bearings when everywhere. It was new, I just think the guy didn't put it together correctly.
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If the axle was subject to an extreme angle it comes apart fairly easily.. The Bentley will illustrate how to rebuild it, even a lesser Haynes or Chilton will as well.
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ROGER IS THE MAN!!!
I ordered my Missing LinkZ shift kit (a1e I think it is complete w/Short throw adapter), $100 out the door, AND he shipped it, SAME DAY...I might have it by Saturday. That'll make me happier than a swine in excrement.
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ROGER IS THE MAN!!!
I ordered my Missing LinkZ shift kit (a1e I think it is complete w/Short throw adapter), $100 out the door, AND he shipped it, SAME DAY...I might have it by Saturday. That'll make me happier than a swine in excrement.
Processed through Sort Facility, June 16, 2011, 11:05 pm, TULSA, OK 74141
Electronic Shipping Info Received, June 15, 2011
Processed through Sort Facility, June 15, 2011, 7:44 pm, SAN JOSE, CA 95101
Acceptance, June 15, 2011, 6:22 pm, SANTA CLARA, CA 95051
Looks like it'll be here tomorrow. Who needs 3day select when you've got 2 day US Mail? :-D
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ROGER IS THE MAN!!!
I ordered my Missing LinkZ shift kit (a1e I think it is complete w/Short throw adapter), $100 out the door, AND he shipped it, SAME DAY...I might have it by Saturday. That'll make me happier than a swine in excrement.
Processed through Sort Facility, June 16, 2011, 11:05 pm, TULSA, OK 74141
Electronic Shipping Info Received, June 15, 2011
Processed through Sort Facility, June 15, 2011, 7:44 pm, SAN JOSE, CA 95101
Acceptance, June 15, 2011, 6:22 pm, SANTA CLARA, CA 95051
Looks like it'll be here tomorrow. Who needs 3day select when you've got 2 day US Mail? :-D
Shift kit arrived today, I'm glad I bought this one instead of the $150 one, same function....less work to install. I don't have to grind off and drill the little knobs that the other shift kits make you do.
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ROGER IS THE MAN!!!
I ordered my Missing LinkZ shift kit (a1e I think it is complete w/Short throw adapter), $100 out the door, AND he shipped it, SAME DAY...I might have it by Saturday. That'll make me happier than a swine in excrement.
Processed through Sort Facility, June 16, 2011, 11:05 pm, TULSA, OK 74141
Electronic Shipping Info Received, June 15, 2011
Processed through Sort Facility, June 15, 2011, 7:44 pm, SAN JOSE, CA 95101
Acceptance, June 15, 2011, 6:22 pm, SANTA CLARA, CA 95051
Looks like it'll be here tomorrow. Who needs 3day select when you've got 2 day US Mail? :-D
Shift kit arrived today, I'm glad I bought this one instead of the $150 one, same function....less work to install. I don't have to grind off and drill the little knobs that the other shift kits make you do.
I have the same kit sitting in my parts bin. Just waiting for the timing needed to install. I wanted to order the more expensive kit because it has the main shifter shaft bushings. Mine are worn out.
I can always order them, but for not i'll just go with stock oem replacements.
AND there was no duty for shipment to canadia. THATS the best deal I've seen.