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Title: About to go get my new ride...
Post by: Rabbit on Roids on June 05, 2010, 07:28:50 am
Just leaving to go pick up a rust & dent free 84 diesel bunny. CS 1.6 engine (didnt we agree these are 12mm engines?) and it has a 4A 4spd trans with a very tall 4th gear (3.94 fd & .71 5th). anyway, im trading a dead 1980 gas rabbit. in just as good of shape. but still, the beige 84 is still a way better car. i went up and looked at it at the peoples house, and they said it didnt run, but grabbed a chunk of wire and jumped the plugs and it fired right up.. idles nice, only needs the cold start advance for a few seconds, and it takes maybe 1 complete rotation to fire it up. oil cap does NOT dance when you set it on the valve cover either.. has a fairly recent rebuilt fuel pump on it, but not sure on injectors..

anyway, im pretty sure i got one hell of a deal here. there are parts on this car that i have never seen on a rabbit before. like the little lip under the bumper that kinda fills in the gap in the bumper.. and a couple other little things..

anyway, ill post up a few pics to drool over here in a few hours.. when i get it home, its getting header-ized and a decent exhaust system, followed by the pump cranked up and governor modded..
Title: Re: About to go get get my new ride...
Post by: rabbitman on June 05, 2010, 11:23:16 am
Just leaving to go pick up a rust & dent free 84 diesel bunny. CS 1.6 engine (didnt we agree these are 12mm engines?)

there are parts on this car that i have never seen on a rabbit before. like the little lip under the bumper that kinda fills in the gap in the bumper.. and a couple other little things..

anyway, ill post up a few pics to drool over here in a few hours.. when i get it home, its getting header-ized and a decent exhaust system, followed by the pump cranked up and governor modded..

Not sure if it's 12mm or not, I don't think CS is normal for a rabbit.

My '84 red gasser rabbit has that little bumper lip, and you'll probably notice the bumper is closer to the body too. The bumper mounts don't have the spring mounts anymore either.....front or rear.

So no turbo yet?

Sounds like a really good score ;D
Title: Re: About to go get get my new ride...
Post by: ktzdsl on June 05, 2010, 06:14:19 pm
CS engine code shown as 1.6L, but only 50HP for a vanagon and campmobile.
Check here: http:/www.Vaglinks.com/Docs/Catalogues/ETKA_VW_Engine_Codes.PDF .
Still do not kow if 11mm o12mm block. HTH.
Title: Re: About to go get get my new ride...
Post by: Baron VonZeppelin on June 05, 2010, 09:46:03 pm
grabbed a chunk of wire and jumped the plugs and it fired right up.. idles nice

my best nights of sleep start with dreams like this ...
Great score for the diesel dogs of the world !

I'm not familiar with CS code
No big deal when you aren't spending the big money on the buy-in anyway.
Look for 16D (11mm) or 1.6D (12mm) on backside (firewall side) of block.

Hope it went well and you got it without any "sellers remorse".
Title: Re: About to go get get my new ride...
Post by: Powered by Spearco on June 06, 2010, 12:21:24 pm
I think that the diesel Vanagon engines had oil squirters?
Title: Re: About to go get get my new ride...
Post by: Wayland on June 06, 2010, 12:33:03 pm
I think that the diesel Vanagon engines had oil squirters?

I've heard that rumor too, but the CS block that came out of my old Vanagon didn't have squirters.
Title: Re: About to go get get my new ride...
Post by: Rabbit on Roids on June 07, 2010, 08:42:47 am
its a CS van engine, a later one i think.. and it has every bit of its 52 hp. most powerful un touched n/a rabbit ive ever driven. has no problem going 65-70 up hills. the trans is making noise :( and i was really happy it had such a sweet 4 speed.. nice .70 4th gear, but 2 pints low on oil..

no, theres no turbo on it YET. but i did throw together a 20 minute bigger, better intake. and im going to be putting on a header in the next few days. i have a brand new header, and all the stuff to put it on with. why not right? anyone got any reason as to why i should use something else besides the header? im aware that its eventually going to crack off, but im gonna build a block brace to help out as much as it can. and i cant stand how quiet it is. its so quiet i cant even tell if its running or not at highway speed. haha.

i traded my red 1980 rabbit C gasser for it. car didnt even run. they thought this diesel didnt run either. but it runs good enough that it will start COLD with a 3/4 DEAD battery, barely enough juice to light up the LEDs on the dash. rrrRRRrrrr.. then it rattled to life. i about shat myself.. i know how picky diesels are about their batteries being charged..

other good news, it has recently (last 5k miles) had a inj pump (650 bucks) timing belt, struts, strut bearings, brakes, and a bunch of other stuff (came with a pretty good book of receipts to the total of about 2500 bucks worth of parts and work) this car was such a good deal even my dad was a bit excited about it, and he does not like VWs very much. oh yea, i believe no one broke 100 mph with a stock n/a diesel on the other thread? this rabbit will go 100mph. not quickly, but it will.

Update - it has the shifter cover under the car. this really is a very complete car.
Title: Re: About to go get get my new ride...
Post by: Baron VonZeppelin on June 07, 2010, 12:57:36 pm
Super Cool ! !

I thought they might back out on the deal after it started up and idled.

It must still have the underhood sound deadening blanket intact as well, to be nice and quiet like that. Those things are a real charm.

Congrats on that sweet deal  8)
Title: Re: About to go get get my new ride...
Post by: 8v-of-fury on June 07, 2010, 08:27:07 pm
oh yea, i believe no one broke 100 mph with a stock n/a diesel on the other thread? this rabbit will go 100mph. not quickly, but it will.

I want proof of this ;) with that trans and assuming stock tire setup, you were spinning 3860 rpm. Was this before or after intake mod? Gov mod? I do not believe a stock 1.6 will do 100mph, not for a second do i believe it.
Title: Re: About to go get get my new ride...
Post by: Dakotakid on June 07, 2010, 09:24:26 pm
I'm having a bit of a problem with that as well.....
Title: Re: About to go get get my new ride...
Post by: catlin_cava on June 08, 2010, 04:01:55 am
I had a hard time getting our accent to do that...and it was a 2008... ;)
Title: Re: About to go get get my new ride...
Post by: theman53 on June 08, 2010, 04:34:46 am
I don't know about stock but the old flat red bunny it was an 84 would do lots more than the 85 the speedo would show. It would still pull at 85 if you gave it the last little bit. It had the intake hacked and a 2.5 or 2.25 exhaust and the gov mod. 4 speed too.
Title: Re: About to go get get my new ride...
Post by: Rabbit on Roids on June 08, 2010, 10:15:19 am
ok, well short of taking my word for it, thats all that its gonna be. it goes 100 mph. no joke. i about shat myself when i looked down and the speedo was about wrapped.. this car RIPS for a n/a car. most powerful n/a ive ever driven.. but now it has a header and a bigger air intake..

remember guys, this thing has a 4A... were talking .71 4th and 3.94's.. thats a good combo for speed. and the engine has less than 100k miles on it. wont even puff the oil cap when its sitting loose on the valve cover. why wouldnt it do 100? i can drop it into 3rd on the highway and pass cars no problem. it will go up hills however fast you want in 3rd gear. this car is NOT GUTLESS like most n/a cars ive driven.
Title: Re: About to go get get my new ride...
Post by: 8v-of-fury on June 08, 2010, 04:07:39 pm
I could understand Gov Mod, Intake, and Exhaust... But a stocker? Nope. no way in hell will a stock governor fuel to 3800 in a 0.71 gear, I mean downhill for 6 miles maybe.. but not under normal conditions.

The pump has been messed with surely. Stock fueling at 3800 rpm would be %20

cool nonetheless however, didnt you bash me about a month ago claiming my N/a was quick? lol sayin it was nt possible and all that... lmao :)
Title: Re: About to go get get my new ride...
Post by: catlin_cava on June 08, 2010, 04:41:14 pm
Pictures are Proof ;)
Title: Re: About to go get get my new ride...
Post by: Powered by Spearco on June 08, 2010, 04:45:53 pm
The speedo's are never correct on those old Rabbits.
Pics or video w/GPS proving it.
Title: Re: About to go get get my new ride...
Post by: rabbitman on June 08, 2010, 04:47:46 pm
The speedo's are never correct on those old Rabbits.
Pics or video w/GPS proving it.

X7 ;D, mine'll do about 80-85 on the flat.
Title: Re: About to go get get my new ride...
Post by: 8v-of-fury on June 08, 2010, 05:10:01 pm
X7 ;D, mine'll do about 80-85 on the flat.

85 is pretty much my top end as well
Title: Re: About to go get get my new ride...
Post by: Baron VonZeppelin on June 08, 2010, 06:50:27 pm
...has recently (last 5k miles) had a inj pump (650 bucks) .... this rabbit will go 100mph. not quickly, but it will.


Maybe the pump job was done by Giles  :)

I think when after i do some sorting out on my 89 NA Jetta it "might" could do 100 or close enough - with original stock exhaust and stock breather.

It'll go 40 in 2nd and 60 in 3rd now, when i do italian tune ups.

Title: Re: About to go get get my new ride...
Post by: rabbitman on June 08, 2010, 07:34:07 pm
How high does the speedo read? My '82 reads up to 85mph and my '84 gasser reads to 95mph.
Title: Re: About to go get get my new ride...
Post by: Rabbit on Roids on June 08, 2010, 08:15:53 pm
speedo reads 100. it will go 75 in third gear. it has a brand new fuel pump. somebody messed with it. it smokes a little and has lots of power for an n/a. im not going to go that far out of my way to prove it goes 100mph. either believe me or think im a liar. i really could care less.

my old rabbit went 83 mph down a hill on the governor in 4th gear. this car damn near does that in 3rd.

this rabbit has had intake and header added, no gov mod yet, but its coming. full throttle stop is gone also.

why would i claim my slow rabbit went 100 if it didnt?

Jeremy - yes, i continue to say n/a rabbits are not quick or fast. drive my 1.5 td.. you will never think the same about an n/a diesel. 100 mph is slow. and it takes a very long time to go that fast. but it will. i about shat when i looked down and saw the speedo buried..

remember guys.. TALL GEARS!!
Title: Re: About to go get get my new ride...
Post by: catlin_cava on June 09, 2010, 03:37:50 am
I think I am going to start believing him, he DOES have a valid case :P. I just find it hard to believe because our accent was getting hard to get to 100mph before we traded it in. (could of been I was driving it since new ::))
Title: Re: About to go get get my new ride...
Post by: 8v-of-fury on June 09, 2010, 05:36:40 am
75 in third would be a tad over 4500, I'll believe you, only because your such an honest nice guy ;) That pump definitely has the gov mod.

Also, I do not compare a fast N/a to a fast TD or even a slow TD.. just faster than a stock N/a. I drive in town and it's perfectly capable of what I need it to do.. but its deff gettin a turbo soon :P I'm gonna start building the other 1.6 I have in the garage for when this one blows up lol
Title: Re: About to go get get my new ride...
Post by: Rabbit on Roids on June 09, 2010, 10:03:47 am
im waiting till its time to change the oil, then its getting the boost :)

i have a K24, and a VNT17 at my disposal.. my ride is gonna get boosted, unless it comes alive when i put the 2" exhaust on it. but i dont think its going to be anything like my TD.. K24, turned up n/a pump, and a shot of N2o should be pretty fun..

and i will try and get you guys atleast a picture of my speedo one of these days @ 100 mph, before its boosted...
Title: Re: About to go get get my new ride...
Post by: Powered by Spearco on June 09, 2010, 10:12:04 am
Whats the tranny code? Don't say GC, cause thats a diesel trans. You must have a gasser trans. Maybe a GP code?
Title: Re: About to go get get my new ride...
Post by: Rabbit on Roids on June 09, 2010, 10:24:45 am
"4A (1984 Diesel Rabbit only)    -   3.94  3.45  1.75  1.06  0.70"

i love the way this trans is laid out gear wise.
Title: Re: About to go get get my new ride...
Post by: theman53 on June 09, 2010, 04:54:02 pm
same as what the old red bunny had and it was a complete dog until I opened it up. The gov mod, intake, and exhaust it was a freeway runner for sure.
Title: Re: About to go get get my new ride...
Post by: burn_your_money on June 09, 2010, 06:41:06 pm
4A is probably my favorite gear box. I had one in my 84.

The pump has been messed with surely. Stock fueling at 3800 rpm would be %20

I don't understand how you are doing your math.

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v603/burnyourmoney/StockVSPerfpumplegend.jpg)

As you can see on my stock 1.6NA 3800 is still pulling.
Title: Re: About to go get get my new ride...
Post by: 8v-of-fury on June 09, 2010, 07:04:43 pm
Dunno Ty-guy what I've gathered on my travels is the governor starts limiting at ~2800 and is fully cut by 3800-4000. Apparently not?

From your dyno, it doesn't even begin to cut until 4250.. if this is the case, then why do we do the governor mod? If at 3800 the engine is still seeing full fuel then why can't my taller geared FF 3.89 final and .71 5th do more than 85mph?

Kev was this 100mph run on stock intake and exhaust? I can't remember if you said..
Title: Re: About to go get get my new ride...
Post by: theman53 on June 09, 2010, 07:17:28 pm
Dunno Ty-guy what I've gathered on my travels is the governor starts limiting at ~2800 and is fully cut by 3800-4000. Apparently not?

From your dyno, it doesn't even begin to cut until 4250.. if this is the case, then why do we do the governor mod? If at 3800 the engine is still seeing full fuel then why can't my taller geared FF 3.89 final and .71 5th do more than 85mph?

Kev was this 100mph run on stock intake and exhaust? I can't remember if you said..

From what I have gathered is that fuel is starting to be cut, but it will still make power. I could be wrong but the way it fuels would be on a bell curve. The final fueling should be what it was at the point it was starting to be cut or close to it. I think total fuel cut would be around 5,300 as that is where the ceiling is on free rev right? It is all interesting and I can say I 100% believe him as my flat red rabbit would hold its own with my GTI. My GTI would have the flat red on take off but I know it would have had it on the top. I am pretty much redline at 80MPH with the 2H in the GTI :D
Title: Re: About to go get get my new ride...
Post by: burn_your_money on June 09, 2010, 07:28:16 pm
(http://i232.photobucket.com/albums/ee10/joshmarstall/PICT0902.jpg)

Here is a Bosch test plan for a 1.6 TD

You can see max fuel is at 1500(pump). It has started to cut back by 2250 but is still only down 10% from max fuel. By 2525 it is down to 8-16cc. By 2750 you should have no more then 3.0cc

I know it's TD but it's governed about the same as a NA from what I recall. I have only tested like 5 pumps so I could easily be wrong.
Title: Re: About to go get get my new ride...
Post by: Baron VonZeppelin on June 09, 2010, 08:11:53 pm
Tylers dyno run probly had a Giles pump on the engine.
Just in case that might change the parameters a bit.  ;D
Title: Re: About to go get get my new ride...
Post by: 8v-of-fury on June 09, 2010, 08:14:25 pm
His dyno page clearly shows both stock, and Gilesified runs. ;)

the gains are astronomical, with nothing more than the pump.. intake and exhaust along with a port job... an n/a could easily keep up with a stock and slightly modded TD
Title: Re: About to go get get my new ride...
Post by: Baron VonZeppelin on June 09, 2010, 09:12:32 pm
okay my badd

my ISP is so crappy slow i have all the stuff shut off about images, avatars, signatures, etc...

i should have right clicked the pic -
figured he was trying to squeeze one in on you - lol

sorry for that Tyler.
Title: Re: About to go get get my new ride...
Post by: rabbitman on June 10, 2010, 03:34:41 pm
IIRC the TD's were governed slower than NA's.
Title: Re: About to go get get my new ride...
Post by: gribur on June 10, 2010, 09:15:13 pm
i read at the beginning of this thread that when the new owner put the oil cap on the valve cover it did not dance. What is this telling you? i have just never heard of this being done. i am assuming you just lightly set the cap on the hole?
ty
Title: Re: About to go get get my new ride...
Post by: 8v-of-fury on June 10, 2010, 09:36:46 pm
The amount of blow by the engine is producing. However it is not fully accurate unless you block off the crank vent, because it sucks a big amount of the blow by directly back in to the cylinders.
Title: Re: About to go get get my new ride...
Post by: Rabbit on Roids on June 11, 2010, 09:59:07 am
i read at the beginning of this thread that when the new owner put the oil cap on the valve cover it did not dance. What is this telling you? i have just never heard of this being done. i am assuming you just lightly set the cap on the hole?
ty

no crank hose in place, still no dancing. well, it moves around a little bit like you would expect, but not like my old TD engine. that thing would puff the cap clear off the valve cover.

and jeremy - i think i had already done the intake, but everything else was still stock. im not sure if someone took the resonator off before me, but there is no resonator, just a muffler. here directly its all coming off tho. im gonna put some 2" on it, because i can get a bunch of it for free. i need a loud diesel again. this rabbit is so quiet you can actually hear yourself think inside it. you can carry on a normal conversation at normal to low voice volume at highway speed. my turbo rabbit wasnt so easy..
Title: Re: About to go get get my new ride...
Post by: Rabbit on Roids on June 13, 2010, 10:47:38 am
update -

had to make a header support brkt.. fired it up cold yesterday and the header was just rattling like a mother. and i figured it will allow me to get a few more miles out of the header before it breaks off.. lol

and i added a 18" cherry bomb also, the stock muffler was starting to rattle, i hate rattles. now, its LOUD, way loud. possibly the loudest car in the county. its louder than any ricer around. but it doesnt "fart" like a ricer, it definitely has some rap from the pipes.. and it raps at about 1200 rpms or so. it has alot more of a "crack" to it than my 1.5 had.

every time i get on the throttle, the exhaust makes me and whoever is riding with me giggle.. its good for a laugh. and the people who just dont know.. "why is your car so loud?" its a diesel yo.. compression isnt quiet..
Title: Re: About to go get get my new ride...
Post by: 8v-of-fury on June 13, 2010, 03:41:54 pm
its a diesel yo.. compression isnt quiet..

I've had to say this to a cop. in a nicer manner :P
Title: Re: About to go get get my new ride...
Post by: Rabbit on Roids on June 14, 2010, 07:49:36 am
i took the fuel screw out of my turbo pump last night and put it in the n/a... it pours all sorts of blackness now..

im thinking of trying some nitrous, i got plenty of fuel now. but i really need bigger exhaust. the stock stuff is just a tad bigger than 1.5" pipe.
Title: Re: About to go get get my new ride...
Post by: 8v-of-fury on June 14, 2010, 07:53:23 am
2.75-3" SS BEE-GEE style ;)
Title: Re: About to go get get my new ride...
Post by: Rabbit on Roids on June 14, 2010, 07:56:45 am
well, i can get miles of 2" pipe for free... so thats most likely what its getting.
Title: Re: About to go get get my new ride...
Post by: rabbitman on June 14, 2010, 10:59:41 am
i took the fuel screw out of my turbo pump last night and put it in the n/a... it pours all sorts of blackness now..

What different betweent the two?
Title: Re: About to go get get my new ride...
Post by: Rabbit on Roids on June 16, 2010, 09:57:34 am
the fuel screw from my turbo pump has no limiting collar. and now the fuel screw is the idle adjustment now..
Title: Re: About to go get get my new ride...
Post by: Rabbit on Roids on June 16, 2010, 10:54:54 am
and this thing is either a 12mm engine, or it has gasser bolts in it.. its a 16D and has 17mm crank bolt.. its a 99% chance its a 11mm huh?
Title: Re: About to go get get my new ride...
Post by: Baron VonZeppelin on June 16, 2010, 08:58:21 pm
Yeh, i'd say 99.999

Title: Re: About to go get get my new ride...
Post by: rabbitman on June 16, 2010, 09:23:22 pm
and this thing is either a 12mm engine, or it has gasser bolts in it.. its a 16D and has 17mm crank bolt.. its a 99% chance its a 11mm huh?

What code is the engine?

Mine is JK, has a 17mm crank bolt and 12mm headbolts. I think it also says 1.6D on the block.
Title: Re: About to go get get my new ride...
Post by: Baron VonZeppelin on June 16, 2010, 09:40:10 pm
79rabbit4dr posted pix of some headbolts in a thread - in FAQ.
Think it is thread about "why do i need expensive head studs in my 11mm block"

11mm gas bolts with tripsquare
11mm diesel bolts with tripsquare
12mm diesel bolts with trips

16D (11) and 1.6D (12) are supposed to be general clues - but maybe not coffin nailing fact.

17mm (11) vs. 19mm (12) is supposed to be coffin nailer.
But i guess ANYTHING can be changed on these cars/engines by now.

And too, maybe we (the general forums of enthusiasts) don't know as much as we had hoped we knew.
Title: Re: About to go get get my new ride...
Post by: rabbitman on June 16, 2010, 09:48:54 pm
79rabbit4dr posted pix of some headbolts in a thread - in FAQ.
Think it is thread about "why do i need expensive head studs in my 11mm block"

11mm gas bolts with tripsquare
11mm diesel bolts with tripsquare
12mm diesel bolts with trips

16D (11) and 1.6D (12) are supposed to be general clues - but maybe not coffin nailing fact.

17mm (11) vs. 19mm (12) is supposed to be coffin nailer.
But i guess ANYTHING can be changed on these cars/engines by now.

And too, maybe we (the general forums of enthusiasts) don't know as much as we had hoped we knew.

Very true.......I'll double check on the crank bolt but I know I've got 12mm headbolts
Title: Re: About to go get get my new ride...
Post by: Rabbit on Roids on June 17, 2010, 02:37:50 pm
my 84 MF turbo engine is a vw rebuild with a 17mm hex bolt. not a 19mm 12pt. and it has 12mm bolts FOR SURE. ive had them out.
Title: Re: About to go get get my new ride...
Post by: rallydiesel on June 17, 2010, 03:29:59 pm
Why are there still no pics? Preposterous.
Title: Re: About to go get get my new ride...
Post by: 8v-of-fury on June 17, 2010, 08:53:09 pm
where is the 100mph rabbit pic!? lol KEVO your lettin us down bromosexual! lolol
Title: Re: About to go get get my new ride...
Post by: Rabbit on Roids on June 18, 2010, 10:39:06 am
i told you guys, either believe me or dont believe me. i never have my camera in the car. if someone cares, i will take a cell phone pic and txt it to someone, then they can host it. im not going thru that much work to prove a point. it doesnt matter now tho, it has a governor mod and some nitrous oxide. and its fuggin loud..

so, do you guys still want pics? i messed with the government..
Title: Re: About to go get get my new ride...
Post by: rallydiesel on June 18, 2010, 02:08:04 pm
I don't care about the 100 mph thing. I'd just like to see some Rabbit pics baby!!!
Title: Re: About to go get get my new ride...
Post by: Rabbit on Roids on June 19, 2010, 09:12:13 am
let me go snap a couple..
Title: Re: About to go get get my new ride...
Post by: Rabbit on Roids on June 19, 2010, 09:51:28 am
(http://i702.photobucket.com/albums/ww28/Dubsmoke/New%20Rabbit/P1000397.jpg)
(http://i702.photobucket.com/albums/ww28/Dubsmoke/New%20Rabbit/P1000398.jpg)
(http://i702.photobucket.com/albums/ww28/Dubsmoke/New%20Rabbit/P1000399.jpg)
(http://i702.photobucket.com/albums/ww28/Dubsmoke/New%20Rabbit/P1000400.jpg)
(http://i702.photobucket.com/albums/ww28/Dubsmoke/New%20Rabbit/P1000401.jpg)
(http://i702.photobucket.com/albums/ww28/Dubsmoke/New%20Rabbit/P1000393.jpg)
(http://i702.photobucket.com/albums/ww28/Dubsmoke/New%20Rabbit/P1000394.jpg)
(http://i702.photobucket.com/albums/ww28/Dubsmoke/New%20Rabbit/P1000395.jpg)
(http://i702.photobucket.com/albums/ww28/Dubsmoke/New%20Rabbit/P1000396.jpg)

Some pics for clix..

there is a header hiding in one of the shots.. and a LOL system in another shot. can you find them?
Title: Re: About to go get get my new ride...
Post by: rabbitman on June 19, 2010, 12:01:26 pm
Looks real good........don't you love the reverse lights? :D
Title: Re: About to go get get my new ride...
Post by: Rabbit on Roids on June 19, 2010, 06:21:27 pm
is it a rabbit requirement for them to always have broken reverse lights? none of my rabbits have ever had both lenses completely intact..
Title: Re: About to go get get my new ride...
Post by: burn_your_money on June 19, 2010, 06:32:10 pm
Wow that's clean. I need to move
Title: Re: About to go get get my new ride...
Post by: lovinthedeez on June 19, 2010, 09:11:43 pm
I got a good set of taillights if you want em.... :-*

looks good.  gotta love clean oregon metal.   :P
Title: Re: About to go get get my new ride...
Post by: rallydiesel on June 19, 2010, 09:21:40 pm
Nice Rabbit!
Is there some kind of injection system hooked up the intake? Looks like there's solenoids hooked up to those two lines.
Title: Re: About to go get get my new ride...
Post by: 8v-of-fury on June 19, 2010, 10:24:07 pm
Nice Rabbit!
Is there some kind of injection system hooked up the intake? Looks like there's solenoids hooked up to those two lines.

Boost On Command, or NOS for short lol ;)
Title: Re: About to go get get my new ride...
Post by: Rabbit on Roids on June 20, 2010, 06:49:05 am
I got a good set of taillights if you want em.... :-*

looks good.  gotta love clean oregon metal.   :P

i *may* have a decent set around home.. but i cant remember for sure. not sure if my grandpa pawned them off or not. what do you want for your tails?
Title: Re: About to go get get my new ride...
Post by: lovinthedeez on June 20, 2010, 01:52:34 pm
im sent
Title: Re: About to go get my new ride...
Post by: Rabbit on Roids on June 21, 2010, 10:25:52 pm
So boys...

got the LOL (nitrous oxide) hooked up today. and let me tell you what, it is friggen sweet. it definitely IS insta-boost. its hooked up so that WOT triggers the spray. i have an on/off switch under the dash. and the bottle sitting on the back seat for right now. and its very convenient to reach back and turn it on. ;) it really is amazing the power increase from when its on, compared to when its off. almost doesnt smoke when you have the n2o going.

but, occasionally it misses at higher rpms. am i just feeding it too much nitrous? or is it secondary injection happening from the 135 bar n/a injectors? its not constant, just a slight stumble/pop at higher revs..
Title: Re: About to go get my new ride...
Post by: 8v-of-fury on June 22, 2010, 05:43:55 am
How high of revs Kevo? Maybe your experiencing Valve float? or the rollers floating in the pump not contacting the cam-plate...?  What are you doing to this poor engine! ;)

so it goes like a Raped Ape HUH!? AWESOME!
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Post by: Rabbit on Roids on June 22, 2010, 07:33:06 am
nah, its not valve float or roller float i dont think. ive spun my TD engine way higher than this and never had any problems. it pops/misses while its still pulling. almost like a miss fire, but it doesnt really pop out the exhaust. and it wont do it unless i use nitrous.. is it biasing one cylinder too much? secondary injection? just too much nitrous?
Title: Re: About to go get my new ride... TURBO!
Post by: Rabbit on Roids on June 25, 2010, 11:04:08 am
well, i put the VNT on the 84 yesterday, and now its a rocket.. faster than my black car with the intercooler. lot less turbo lag also, its a tire melter just like the last one.. only running 15 psi, on a CRANKED up fresh n/a pump and injectors. it will blow a little smoke off the line, but then just cleans up and almost loses traction.
Title: Re: About to go get my new ride... TURBO!
Post by: Rabbit on Roids on June 28, 2010, 10:39:27 am
it still amazes me that i turned boosting an engine into an afternoon project. it went from n/a in the morning, to TD before dinner. even fitted the K24 most of the way on there just to figure out it doesnt fit. no easy way to fab up a down pipe at the time.

it has no intercooler and would still own my black 1.5td. has 5 psi less boost also. this one maxes out at about 20 psi. but its a rocket. if you listen closely, you can hear the tires squealing all the way thru 2nd and 3rd gear. not spinning lots, but just not completely hooked up.

it has a n/a fuel pump, and the turbo likes it better. i like it that i got all my power off the line, rather than waiting for the LDA to kick in. when it was still n/a, you could make the highway disappear behind you. now it just boosts and goes. used to never gain speed going up hills. now i can go up all the hills around here and actually gain some speed. you were lucky to be going 50 mph over any of the hills, now you can be going 50 at the bottom, get on some boost, and before you know it, look down and the speedo is pointed to 80 mph.
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Post by: Baron VonZeppelin on June 28, 2010, 08:28:50 pm
Sounds like a really great car.
And you're having such a good time with it.
Win/Win

I'm just hoping you don't blow the lid off of it anytime soon. lol
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Post by: Rabbit on Roids on June 29, 2010, 10:35:50 am
pretty sure the lid is safe on this engine. i made a high speed run up a 3 mile long hill at 90mph w/18 psi the whole way up. i wanted to make sure all the boost hoses are gonna last. and that my car isnt gonna burn down. but it was fine. i really need an intercooler tho. i can feel it get slower as the boost builds. 10 psi pulls hard, and 15 really doesnt pull much harder.
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Post by: tSoG-84bit on June 29, 2010, 05:23:48 pm
maybe I missed something, homemade vnt manifold or a direct bolt in from something else? something other than your 1.5td...  ;D
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Post by: Rabbit on Roids on June 29, 2010, 05:43:54 pm
are you un-aware that a us-spec VNT has a manifold cast right onto the turbo? there is no need for a manifold. it already has one. it is a turbo off a 01 ALH tdi engine. it is indeed the turbo off the 1.5 engine. most of the turbo setup is.
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Post by: tSoG-84bit on June 29, 2010, 07:57:57 pm
are you un-aware that a us-spec VNT has a manifold cast right onto the turbo? there is no need for a manifold. it already has one. it is a turbo off a 01 ALH tdi engine. it is indeed the turbo off the 1.5 engine. most of the turbo setup is.

sorry, it's late and I'm stupid. I was trying to ask "what did the VNT originally come from, and did you have to modify anything to make it work on a rabbit?"  ;D

I assumed it came from the 1.5, but wondered where originally. and yes, brainfart on the vnt/manifold combo. forgive me please it's past my bedtime.
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Post by: fatmobile on June 29, 2010, 11:05:52 pm
Yep, a 1.6 with a VNT is different off the line,
 The longer stroke gives it more torque down low.

I wonder if the high RPM miss is a fuel supply issue.
 Maybe there is a slight restriction in the fuel line that only shows up at higher demand.
 Do you have a dash-mounted vacuum gauge hooked up to the fuel line?
 If that's the problem, maybe a small fuel pump would help at high RPMs.
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Post by: 8v-of-fury on June 30, 2010, 08:19:15 am
DEAREST KEvO.

01 ALH tdi is where the turbo came from eh? with a pretty much swap on awesomeness?
Title: Re: About to go get my new ride...
Post by: Rabbit on Roids on June 30, 2010, 09:20:39 am
Yep, a 1.6 with a VNT is different off the line,
 The longer stroke gives it more torque down low.

I wonder if the high RPM miss is a fuel supply issue.
 Maybe there is a slight restriction in the fuel line that only shows up at higher demand.
 Do you have a dash-mounted vacuum gauge hooked up to the fuel line?
 If that's the problem, maybe a small fuel pump would help at high RPMs.

high RPM misfire was from nitrous. were golden now boys. no pops or sputters. just pulls till i grab another gear. the pops and back fires were from too much nitrous or something.
Title: Re: About to go get my new ride...
Post by: Rabbit on Roids on June 30, 2010, 09:30:47 am
are you un-aware that a us-spec VNT has a manifold cast right onto the turbo? there is no need for a manifold. it already has one. it is a turbo off a 01 ALH tdi engine. it is indeed the turbo off the 1.5 engine. most of the turbo setup is.

sorry, it's late and I'm stupid. I was trying to ask "what did the VNT originally come from, and did you have to modify anything to make it work on a rabbit?"  ;D

I assumed it came from the 1.5, but wondered where originally. and yes, brainfart on the vnt/manifold combo. forgive me please it's past my bedtime.

i welded the EGR port closed, and modified a gasser intake to be my manifold. had to do some grinding on the bottom of the manifold, there was a big mounting boss that had to be cut off and smoothed out. if if you dont care about running a stock TD intake, you dont have to modify anything. you could just make a blank off plate for the EGR and use the stock right angle manifold that biases cyls 2 & 3. if any of you can find a VNT17 or a KP39 turbo, they are both VNT units, and both perform very well. i personally prefer the KP39, as it has a v band clamp for the down pipe, vnt has a chintzey 3 bolt flange. ive already broken the mounting studs off the turbo once, so now it has small block chevy header bolts holding the flange on.  ;)
Title: Re: About to go get my new ride...
Post by: Rabbit on Roids on June 30, 2010, 09:33:34 am
DEAREST KEvO.

01 ALH tdi is where the turbo came from eh? with a pretty much swap on awesomeness?

yes, for one afternoon, and no tuning since it was n/a, it was pure awesomeness. crap, i had 5 people in my rabbit yesterday and it still went decent. had no problem getting up to speed in moderate traffic. its not deathly slow anymore thats for sure.. i mean, it wasnt that slow before, but now its just flat quick. if anyone wants pics of the VNT install, i can probably snap a few.
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Post by: fatmobile on June 30, 2010, 10:51:36 pm
5 people and it still goes good?
 I usually think my 1.5 VNT is fast;
 until one fatty sits in it.
 One person really slows it down.
Title: Re: About to go get my new ride...
Post by: Rabbit on Roids on July 01, 2010, 09:46:23 am
i had me, my sister, her boyfriend, his brother, and a friend. the car lost traction when i shifted second. not like these are all full size people, they are youngsters. so maybe the equivalent of 4 grown men, but yes, it goes fine still, my other rabbit went fine all loaded down. but this one would school it.
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Post by: catlin_cava on July 01, 2010, 10:06:21 am
So whats going into the 82?
Title: Re: About to go get my new ride...
Post by: Rabbit on Roids on July 01, 2010, 11:05:26 am
my black 81? its been off the road for a while. i broke the motor mounts last fall, and shortly afterward pulled the engine. it needs front wheel bearings, all 4 engine mounts, struts, and a bunch of other things i cant think of right now.

i miss it tho, it doesnt rattle near as much as the 84. my 84 has too many doors. they all make noise when you hit bumps. and the 2dr had soooo much more leg room in it than the 4 dr car.