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Engine Specific Info and Questions => IDI Engine => Topic started by: Kantdrivefast on June 26, 2009, 07:54:40 pm
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So im trying to get the diesel to start after the turbo swap and im having no luck getting fuel to the pump. Tips, tricks?
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So im trying to get the diesel to start after the turbo swap and im having no luck getting fuel to the pump. Tips, tricks?
make sure its primed first by making sure that the pump is full of fuel. in most cases the pump will create enough suction from that alone to suck fuel from the tank. if that doesn't work, you'll need to pull vacuum on the return line.
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the pump has fuel in it...
How do I pull vacuum on the return line?
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Can you see fuel moving through the clear line when the engine is cranked? The stop solenoid is getting 12 volts and clicks, right?
Couldnt see any fuel moving, but the solenoid clicks.
Should I swap it out and see if it makes a difference?
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While you are cranking to get it full of fuel and to prime the injectors don't forget to floor the pedal. It takes forever if it's just cranking at the idle position.
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Got it!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Small problems though.....
1. Bubbling at the base of the injectors. Just need tightening?
2. First gear is not there. Adjustment of the shifter?
3. Lotsa smoke!!!!!! Time to fiddle with stuff.
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1.NO!
2.Hopefullu
3.start fiddling.
1. Did you replace the injectors? If so did you use new heat sheilds? Don't tighten the injectors as that is how I learned that they crack the head if tightend much over the 51 lbs. If you didn't replace the injectors then maybe it is the return lines and looks like it is comming from the base or when you were priming the lines and they were loose the diesel could just be laying there and boiling when the head got hot. What color is the smoke?
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While you are cranking to get it full of fuel and to prime the injectors don't forget to floor the pedal. It takes forever if it's just cranking at the idle position.
You can't crank at the idle position. When you are cranking you are at cranking fuel because the governor is not spinning fast enough to push the flyweights out. Holding your foot to the floor doesn't hurt though.
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I know its in the FAQ, but Im useless without pictures, so where do I start adjusting the idle and fuel?
Im having one of those noob days....
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PINK= Idle
GREEN= Fuel
ORANGE= Wide open adjustment.
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The above is correct unless your pump has a fast idle. Then your pink adjustment is on the back of the pump
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alright, more questions....
The oil pressure? buzzer comes on when I rev it past 3000rpm. No clue what the hell is going on there cause it just stays on even after the engine calms down.
Also, lots of smoke, idling and through the rpm range. I have my boost gauge teed in to the boost aneroid line but its not reading any boost. Could this be a boost leak somewhere attributing to all the smoke?
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first off congrats on getting it running!
Secondly, can you make a drive with it to kamloops? we can go over any other issues you may have if you can drive it.
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first off congrats on getting it running!
Secondly, can you make a drive with it to kamloops? we can go over any other issues you may have if you can drive it.
Ya I've been driving it around today! And I've gotta put an exhaust on it as its just the downpipe at the moment. Ummmm I could come in tomorrow or wednesday if that works. Thanks tom.
Side note.... I lost the oil pan drain bolt today, but I caught it before I lost all the oil. Threw a new one in, 4 quarts of 15-40 and I was back on my way. This thing is not making boost. Or only a little. The turbo is spooling but theres no dramatic increase in power over the N/A.
I think it will make it to kamloops..... Might need a pair of earplugs though.
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I know its in the FAQ, but Im useless without pictures, so where do I start adjusting the idle and fuel?
Im having one of those noob days....
Don't' start fooling around with the fuel settings until you know exactly what the timing is set to and you know how to set it yourself. Timing, compression check, full throttle adjusted so it gets there and then play with the screws. If you start turning screws now you'll never know where you are, where you were or how to get back to where you thought you were, seriously. ;)
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So I made 15lbs of boost today on the way home with stock fueling :) the only mod was the plugged wastegate, But theres an awful lot of smoke off boost and idle and well all the time. Still fun though, and its obnoxiously loud. It will need a muffler. Got the temps up to 1100F and nothings blown up so far. So I am fairly confident in the car. But the oil and temp light keep flashing at me when I get going, and the cluster is buzzing like a mofo, I dont know if its really the engine yelling at me or the mk2 cluster not liking its home in the mk1.
Oh and I havent touched the pump yet... Hopefully I can meet up with Zagarus tomorrow and get this thing dialed in. And Im unsure of how dialed in this engine could be... The flywheels on wrong so theres no mark to find tdc....
Im so stoked to be driving this thing again!!!!!
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ya we will definitely check the timing, check out yer oil buzzing, and whatever else there is still. Ill be glad to be working on a diesel again!!!!
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Do I turn the fuel screw in or out to reduce fueling? Gotta make this thing less smokey!
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Anyone?
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Alright, all this smoke at idle and off boost is killing me. Really.....
Which of the oil light and temp light in the mk2 cluster buzz, and for what reason?
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ive never had a boost leak so bad that it WOULDNT register boost. and i blew a hose 90% apart before too. there were 2 threads and about a half inch of rubber holding it together, but i still had a couple pounds of boost. i think i would start messing with timing first to get rid of all the smoke.
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ive never had a boost leak so bad that it WOULDNT register boost. and i blew a hose 90% apart before too. there were 2 threads and about a half inch of rubber holding it together, but i still had a couple pounds of boost. i think i would start messing with timing first to get rid of all the smoke.
No it boosts now, Just had to put my foot into it to figure that out. Think I saw about 15lbsf
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and it still smokes a ton? sounds like late timing to me. try advancing it half the width of a pencil line until you get rid of the smoke.
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is that towards the front of the car or away
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I believe away from the engine for retard, but make sure someone else verifies as I don't know for sure.
What oil filter did you use? I had buzzing with the fram that wasn't the 3569 model. Also is it a possibility that your water and oil lines have been mixed up? Just some things you might want to check.
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alright, more questions....
The oil pressure? buzzer comes on when I rev it past 3000rpm. No clue what the hell is going on there cause it just stays on even after the engine calms down.
Also, lots of smoke, idling and through the rpm range. I have my boost gauge teed in to the boost aneroid line but its not reading any boost. Could this be a boost leak somewhere attributing to all the smoke?
You won't have any boost till there's a load on the engine and the turbo up to temp, I thought the same thing when I first started mine.
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While you are cranking to get it full of fuel and to prime the injectors don't forget to floor the pedal. It takes forever if it's just cranking at the idle position.
You can't crank at the idle position. When you are cranking you are at cranking fuel because the governor is not spinning fast enough to push the flyweights out. Holding your foot to the floor doesn't hurt though.
Are you saying that holding the pedal down during cranking doesn't actualy inject more fuel, I didn't know that but I know you have experience with pumps. I guess then it's kind of useless like pumping the pedal on a new fuel injected car thinking it's squirting in more extra fuel like with a carbureator's accelerator pump used to do.
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toward the engine to advance it, toward the rad to retard it.
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I tried advancing the timing some, didnt seem like it helped. The engine is still very lazy in the low rpms....