I am starting a 1.6TD build version 2, hoping for more than 40,000 miles :D - page 21 - IDI Engine - VWDiesel.net The IDI, TDI, and mTDI source.

• #300 by 745 turbogreasel on 03 Sep, 2013 19:49
• In my experience, the SB clutches will handle at least what they claim it will, and feel great doing it.  If you get one rated for your output, it will be fine.
• #301 by theman53 on 07 Sep, 2013 18:35
• Well, I think I exploded another turbo. When I feel like it I will take it off and see what I got.
  Backstory: I was finally getting on it as I have about 1,000 miles on it and boosting good in 3rd. Pop it went and it felt and sounded exactly like a boost hose going. I had a truck behind me so I coasted it about 1/2 mile to the turn off and then the truck followed me so I had to climb the hill. Got to the top and it started to run away so I dumped the clutch and killed it. Towed it home and now I am thinking about having a Stella Artois or 12 and taking it off.
  
  In hindsight as good as that turbo made it run I don't think it is built for the long haul.
• #302 by Gizmoman on 07 Sep, 2013 19:18
• Man, that's a real shame. Are you running higher boost pressures than it was designed for?
  Is there any possibility that your larger valves are letting too much flow? Never heard of it and I really know nothing about turbos cpmpared to you and others here. This just makes no sense.
• #303 by theman53 on 07 Sep, 2013 21:13
• I have no clue. Looks good on paper, but real life it sucks. I think it was eating the air the turbo made too well because of the valves as you said. From what we have figured the intake and exhaust should be at least 75% efficient to 29psi with a stock head, mine wouldn't make more than 18psi so I think it was eating up all the boost and possibly overspeeding. If it were stock valves I bet it would have lasted a bit more.
• #304 by Gizmoman on 07 Sep, 2013 21:26
• Quote from: theman53 on 07 Sep, 2013 21:13

  I have no clue. Looks good on paper, but real life it sucks. I think it was eating the air the turbo made too well because of the valves as you said. From what we have figured the intake and exhaust should be at least 75% efficient to 29psi with a stock head, mine wouldn't make more than 18psi so I think it was eating up all the boost and possibly overspeeding. If it were stock valves I bet it would have lasted a bit more.
  

  Maybe a bigger turbo?
• #305 by theman53 on 07 Sep, 2013 21:30
• http://www.ebay.com/itm/BRAND-NEW-GENUINE-BORG-WARNER-AIRWERKS-S200SX-56-HIGH-PERFORMANCE-TURBOCHARGER-/290963919302?pt=Motors_Car_Truck_Parts_Accessories&hash=item43becd11c6&vxp=mtr
  
  I think, I would like to talk to Alcaid and some others. If I am going to make a setup I will make it with something that works and not just fits. I am thinking of a scwitzer s200 super but I don't know what I will do. Lots of thinking less money than thinking.
• #306 by bbob203 on 07 Sep, 2013 22:44
• gt2052???
• #307 by Gizmoman on 07 Sep, 2013 22:50
• Quote from: theman53 on 07 Sep, 2013 21:30

  http://www.ebay.com/itm/BRAND-NEW-GENUINE-BORG-WARNER-AIRWERKS-S200SX-56-HIGH-PERFORMANCE-TURBOCHARGER-/290963919302?pt=Motors_Car_Truck_Parts_Accessories&hash=item43becd11c6&vxp=mtr
  
  I think, I would like to talk to Alcaid and some others. If I am going to make a setup I will make it with something that works and not just fits. I am thinking of a scwitzer s200 super but I don't know what I will do. Lots of thinking less money than thinking.
  

  Yeeeeaa Flow
  
  Gotta hand it to ya - you don't give up easy
• #308 by CRSMP5 on 07 Sep, 2013 23:33
•   how ya supposed to drive it over to go for a ride in my b3 tomarrow? or photo and take notes on the 02a tear down??
• #309 by Alcaid on 08 Sep, 2013 03:26
• That S200 is similar to a Holset HX35 but with an even bigger turbine housing, will never spool
  
  The Holset HE211W or a special version of the HE221W both have 5cm turbine housing and that's as big as I would go in a single turbo setup. He211W is similar to a GT2056 and that 5cm HE221W would translate to a "GT2158" and it has a durable billett compressor wheel, tested to up to 45psi on 1.6TD wouldn't recommend running more than 36psi in the long run though. Have one I could let go for 500USD + shipping to help you out. Not even covering my costs but I feel your pain after 2x turbo failures. I could get hold of a HE211W for you if needed as well. Also tested up to 45psi, never seen one of these small frame Holsets fail yet Seen lots of KKK and Garretts fail on these 1.6TD high boost applications.
  
  The normal HE221W has a 7m turbine housing and wheels similar to the GTB2260VK, but I's too laggy run as a single turbo i have a custom machined 5cm turbine housing for it but haven't tested it yet.
• #310 by CRSMP5 on 08 Sep, 2013 07:18
• he has my turbo pieces.....  he could get it built and see if it holds together... hell callin sponge bob... you dont have to send it to canada... but think yours needs tested... lucas looks to be good tester..  
• #311 by Gizmoman on 08 Sep, 2013 07:51
• Theman, As I recall, you were waiting (forever) for some flow info from the guy that did your head. I'll bet those numbers would help right about now.
  One thing for sure - this ain't no 1.6 anymore
• #312 by theman53 on 08 Sep, 2013 08:47
• Quote from: Alcaid on 08 Sep, 2013 03:26

  That S200 is similar to a Holset HX35 but with an even bigger turbine housing, will never spool
  
  The Holset HE211W or a special version of the HE221W both have 5cm turbine housing and that's as big as I would go in a single turbo setup. He211W is similar to a GT2056 and that 5cm HE221W would translate to a "GT2158" and it has a durable billett compressor wheel, tested to up to 45psi on 1.6TD wouldn't recommend running more than 36psi in the long run though. Have one I could let go for 500USD + shipping to help you out. Not even covering my costs but I feel your pain after 2x turbo failures. I could get hold of a HE211W for you if needed as well. Also tested up to 45psi, never seen one of these small frame Holsets fail yet Seen lots of KKK and Garretts fail on these 1.6TD high boost applications.
  
  The normal HE221W has a 7m turbine housing and wheels similar to the GTB2260VK, but I's too laggy run as a single turbo i have a custom machined 5cm turbine housing for it but haven't tested it yet.
  

  
  that special one was the one I thought I was looking for. I will have to build a manifold and downpipe so I don't know if the car would be going by winter now. I would love to buy it off of you but probably 600.00 in turbo and then the cost of making a manifold are not in the budget. BUT I will see if I can do it anyway.
• #313 by theman53 on 08 Sep, 2013 08:49
• Quote from: Gizmoman on 08 Sep, 2013 07:51

  Theman, As I recall, you were waiting (forever) for some flow info from the guy that did your head. I'll bet those numbers would help right about now.
  One thing for sure - this ain't no 1.6 anymore
  

  
  page 19 on my screen I posted the intake numbers and then the numbers from the last head and stock. It flows basically 150cfm at full lift intake wise
• #314 by theman53 on 08 Sep, 2013 09:04
• Alcaid, what is the power expectation of that 221w? I don't think I would run it over 30psi as I think the head eats up air way more than normal. Seems that this last one was maxed out I think at that 18psi level and on paper it was supposed to be around 29 ish. Also I have read your threads before but how did it spool? I have really good pull off boost but the pull on used to start I would guess around 1600 rpm if it was there I would be fine with that.