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July 24, 2007, 06:44:26 am
4BTA4ME
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ALH ECM pinout
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Does anyone have a pinout sheet for this ECM? I am mapping out my plan to run a Tdi in my 1998 Jetta ABA but I don't see what some of the pins do on the ALH ECM. e.g. T121/16 and T121/27. I need also to find the glowplug signal output from the ECM. One of my first steps is to map some of my Tdi signals over to my ABA instrument cluster. I was thinking of using the seatbelt light on the ABA for the glowplug light.
Also, I am looking for someone who can determine if my ALH ECm is good. All the engine wire harness conductors were severed in the accident and I fear may have shorted something in the ECM. I have contacted Rocketchip to do this but they are on vacation (Holliday
).
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September 14, 2007, 12:55:03 am
lc99
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ECM pins ...
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September 14, 2007, 12:55:03 am »
Hi 4BTA4ME, I was also trying to figure out the T121/16 line. I would like to find a pinout diagram ... I found some 45-pin charts but those are for older engine types, and not the ALH which I have (a 2002 Jetta TDI Wagon).
(* Removed one paragraph, since I didn't know how to read the wiring diagram and didn't understand the off-sheet track number connections!; *)
I have a problem with my drivers-side turn signal sometimes getting stuck on, when I arm or disarm the system i.e. lock or unlock ... that's why I was trying to track down some of those signals. Thanks; Larry.
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September 14, 2007, 12:27:03 pm
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Is this any use?
http://volkswagen.msk.ru/electro/g4/g4_wd04.pdf
Mikki x
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September 14, 2007, 04:45:52 pm
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September 14, 2007, 04:45:52 pm »
Thanks Mikki, I have seen an 80-point ECM connector in that wiring diagram (wd_04).
I had recently retrieved some of those wiring diagrams from volkswagen.msk.ru, and I also have them as printed in the Bentley book. But while you can figure out what many of those lines are doing based on reading the connection path, some of them are not obvious. I look in the document "g4_wd32_alh", which is also included in the Bentley book, and it shows connections to the 121-point ECM; but some of those connections aren't given a meaningful name (just a number).
I don't even know if this T121/16 will be interesting or useful to me, it may be just a bias or sensor connection ... anyhow, I'm going to attach a probe to it when I get some time. I think that some people with access to the full source documentation can see more about the ECM pinout; but I have only the consumer book on paper, plus whatever I can locate freely on the internet. Larry
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September 15, 2007, 05:49:19 am
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Hi again,
I think I see where you're getting stuck. The numbers in boxes represent the current track of where that wire goes to. The current track is shown by the numbers on the bottom of the diagram increasing to the right.
Looking at diagram 'g4_wd32', pin 121/16 of the ECU (shown in track 98 ) is going to track 161. Track 161 is pin T32a/5 of the dash cluster and is shown as going to track 98 (so they meet up) . It is labelled 'W', which is your tacho output from the ECU, replacing the traditional 'W' alternator terminal.
4BTA4ME - pin 27 of the ECU goes to pin T32/11 on the cluster. It's a bit cryptic to follow because there is actually a typo in that diagram on page 32/12 where the wires cross the top of the page! I can't see what pin 11 does, but it has to be either the glow plug signal or fuel consumption signal (for the MFA). It's on the same page as the glow plug light K29, but don't take that as gospel because they don't show the internal connections within the cluster.
The simple way to check is just to put a test light on it when you power everything up. If it's the glow plug the light will come on briefly. If its the MFA it won't :wink:
Hope that helps
Mikki x
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September 15, 2007, 02:59:39 pm
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September 15, 2007, 02:59:39 pm »
Mikki, thank you very much for explaining how to read those current track / off-sheet connections. I had totally mis-understood that, but I had a feeling that the track number was useful in some way. (I was mixing numbers from totally different diagrams, ouch.) Now I get it!! (And the wire colors finally agree;) That makes it a lot easier; Larry.
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September 17, 2007, 07:54:09 am
4BTA4ME
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ALH ECM pinout
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September 17, 2007, 07:54:09 am »
Thanks MikkiJayne. I've been absent for a while. I had a lot of work to do to my yard and house to get ready for a clam bake this past weekend. I can start looking at the diagrams again. Good point on checking wire signals when they power up.
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April 12, 2008, 12:21:02 am
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My problem was actually in the Central CCM; replaced relay
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April 12, 2008, 12:21:02 am »
My problem (in my 2002 model) was in the
Central CCM
; Not Related To
ECM
at all;
It was the CCM output relay that flashes the signal/indicator lights ... CCM pin numbers were
13
and
14
(which connect to the Instrument Panel's Control Module, pin numbers
2
and
18
), on the CCM's 15-pin connector ... also (in the Wiring Diagram "
Central control module for comfort system, antitheft warning system, antenna wire for central locking and antitheft warning system
"), these go to
A5
and
A6
which are the turn signal/marker lights. The
Comfort CCM
in my vehicle is VW part number
1C0 959 799 C
.
If anyone would like to read about that particular problem ("
Turn Signal gets STUCK ON, after using Key (or Remote) to Lock or Unlock doors!
"), it's in
TDIClub.com thread #174543
,
Click
Here
.
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