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July 07, 2007, 05:44:34 am

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« on: July 07, 2007, 05:44:34 am »
I am looking for an downpipe for my 86 Golf NA to Turbo 1.6 swap. I was waiting till I got my IP back from Gile before I order an downpipe from Passenger Performance, but now I found out PP discontinued the downpipe. I sent them a few Emails with no responce (I'll give them a call Monday) I don't see a listing for a diesel on the Techtonics page either.
Any ideals on were I can get a good downpipe so I can do my swap????

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Reply #1July 07, 2007, 09:04:43 am

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« Reply #1 on: July 07, 2007, 09:04:43 am »
techtonics only makes that pipe for the mk1.  and its 300 dollars, it's only 2 1/4 inch as well.  *** that i can have a muffler shop make me one for less than that.  but as of now there is upgraded down pipe available for your car, you'll need to find a second hand pp pipe, make your own, or have a shop make one.
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Reply #2July 07, 2007, 02:25:05 pm

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« Reply #2 on: July 07, 2007, 02:25:05 pm »
PP is now making 3" SS DP's. Check the vendors section.
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Reply #3July 09, 2007, 05:35:27 am

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« Reply #3 on: July 09, 2007, 05:35:27 am »
While I agree that the PP downpipes are the best, I just put the techtonics pipe on my car (since PP stopped making them a few weeks too early!).  The quality was excellent, and while expensive it's a decent product.

I was going to make it myself, but after calculating the cost of the flanges, pipe, flex chamber (all stainless), not to mention the hours of goofing around to make it fit, I thought the $300 was a fair price for a fully stainless pipe.

As far as it only being 2.25", it's plenty for my needs.  I think I would have difficultly fitting a 3" pipe down there, clearance is tight with the 2.25 pipe.

Good luck!

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Reply #4July 09, 2007, 05:50:07 am

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« Reply #4 on: July 09, 2007, 05:50:07 am »
I've been running a TT 2.5" SS pipe on my '79 for a couple years, summers only.  I did the same thing as you, priced out the cost of the raw materials from Burnes Stainless and a custom made pipe from TT was still cheeper.  I even had the flanges already cut out in SS.

I have yet to experience the exploding SS phenominae, and have seen no evadence of its impending doom.

The welds looked pritty good to me too.  My only constructive criticism I have is they used a mild steel flange on the turbo.  I like the fit too, I have the Autotech 4 point sub-frame, and the TT pipe made it over that as well, it tuckes up in the tunnel nice, stays away from the plastic goods on the shifter, and gives you a good shot at missing the shift boot.

oh, and they said they'd never-ever make another 2.5" pipe because it was too hard.

TT's current offering; http://www.techtonicstuning.com/showpart.asp?partnum=251.224

I have one of Dave's pipes on my other Rabbit.  I'm relutant to say that Dave's pipe is superior to the TT pipe as I see no evadence to support such a claim.  I guess we'll see which one explodes first.  But Daves pipe will be at a disadvantage, as thats on the winter rabbit, and that will see more extreme temperature swings.

But now I'm kind of having a problem...  3" sounds very intregueing, and I'd really like the challenge of getting 3" over a rabbit rear axel.  I guess I'll have to see what Dave's pipe looks like and see how much my need/want level rises.
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Reply #5July 09, 2007, 07:27:14 am

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« Reply #5 on: July 09, 2007, 07:27:14 am »
What I like about the TT Down Pipe is that they include the mounting for the stock support bracket on the Manifold.

Reply #6July 09, 2007, 08:42:25 am

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« Reply #6 on: July 09, 2007, 08:42:25 am »
Actually, its a muffler clamp, with a strip of metal welded to it and the turbo flange.  Not too elegant, but apearently effective.
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Reply #7July 09, 2007, 08:48:43 am

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« Reply #7 on: July 09, 2007, 08:48:43 am »
My pipe came with a stainless flange on it.  We had to grind it a little to make more clearance, and boy was it hard!

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Reply #8July 09, 2007, 08:52:55 am

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« Reply #8 on: July 09, 2007, 08:52:55 am »
I suppose I got the mild steel flange because it was a custom build and they couldn't machine the SS flanges bigger in house.
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Reply #9July 09, 2007, 05:04:13 pm

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« Reply #9 on: July 09, 2007, 05:04:13 pm »
Well all the info on TT downpipe is good for someone else, but I need one for an 86 Golf. I called Dave at PP and left a message, sent a coulpe of Email and a PM but no answer, is he on vacation?
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Reply #10July 09, 2007, 06:40:19 pm

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Re: What about my 86 Golf??????
« Reply #10 on: July 09, 2007, 06:40:19 pm »
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Well all the info on TT downpipe is good for someone else, but I need one for an 86 Golf. I called Dave at PP and left a message, sent a coulpe of Email and a PM but no answer, is he on vacation?


Sorry I have been out of town for the last 3 days on business. I am going to respond to your PM tonight.

Reply #11July 09, 2007, 06:49:51 pm

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« Reply #11 on: July 09, 2007, 06:49:51 pm »
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I suppose I got the mild steel flange because it was a custom build and they couldn't machine the SS flanges bigger in house.



Actually the mild steel flange is superior for reliability, given it was welded properly.
But from the TT pipes I have had to repair (I think I am up to 4 for the tdi versions and who knows how many gas versions) the welding has been crap, and the ghetto bracket from the flange to the first bend in the downpipe is the first warning flag. Theres no need to brace the downpipe there if its welded properly.

I don't have a big problem with TT I buy plenty of their other stuff, but I would be slightly hesitant to recommend their downpipes, at least the models I have repaired anyways.

Reply #12July 09, 2007, 07:57:30 pm

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« Reply #12 on: July 09, 2007, 07:57:30 pm »
It does make sence that you'd have a slightly biased view on them though, who brings you a perfercly good DP to repair?

I'm not trying to knock you in anyway though, just mentioning a variable that may be overlooked. I know when I get my DP it will be from you 8)
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Reply #13July 09, 2007, 10:50:44 pm

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« Reply #13 on: July 09, 2007, 10:50:44 pm »
Yeah I know it looks biased but I do buy other stuff from tt like valve springs and stuff. Its just their fab quality I do not think is very good, not as bad as 034 motorsport though, I could almost make a living off the 034 stuff I have to repair :lol:

People seem to be happy with the mk1TD downpipes from what I read in this thread and thats great. I am all for competition, if someone makes something better than me you can guarantee that I will come back and make something better again. :arrow:

Reply #14July 09, 2007, 11:03:50 pm

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« Reply #14 on: July 09, 2007, 11:03:50 pm »
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