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June 06, 2007, 01:16:10 am

Barry W

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I need the link to the main bearing mod that I had seen a few months back. Anyone got that? Done it?  Or give me any tips or quick referance?



Reply #1June 06, 2007, 09:55:20 am

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« Reply #1 on: June 06, 2007, 09:55:20 am »
you mean the 3 piece bearings???

i'm in need of those as well, but for a  1Z TDI.

anyone have any part numbers???  I can't find the 1Z in my ETKA... I need the europe version!


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Reply #2June 06, 2007, 10:03:25 am

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« Reply #2 on: June 06, 2007, 10:03:25 am »
The "mod" is just that you buy the 6 piece main/thrust bearing and reuse the old thrust bearings so you don't have the machine them because they are already set for that engine.

This is what you want (for a 1.6 TD)

http://parts.autopartsonlinecanada.com/parts/apocanada/quote.jsp?year=1991&product=A2010-188744&application=001060248&part=Main%20Bearing%20Set&category=A

NOT THIS (which has the thrust bearings built into the main bearing)

http://parts.autopartsonlinecanada.com/parts/apocanada/quote.jsp?year=1991&product=A2010-38652&application=000227875&part=Main%20Bearing%20Set&category=A
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Reply #3June 06, 2007, 12:57:34 pm

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Why would re using the old Thrust Bearings be better than using new ones of the same size?

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Reply #4June 06, 2007, 02:32:13 pm

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« Reply #4 on: June 06, 2007, 02:32:13 pm »
Thanks guys!  :)

Reply #5June 06, 2007, 02:44:15 pm

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Quote from: "Fisher"
Why would re using the old Thrust Bearings be better than using new ones of the same size?

Rudy


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Reply #6June 06, 2007, 08:20:50 pm

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« Reply #6 on: June 06, 2007, 08:20:50 pm »
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Why would re using the old Thrust Bearings be better than using new ones of the same size?


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Reply #7June 06, 2007, 09:34:31 pm

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« Reply #7 on: June 06, 2007, 09:34:31 pm »
Bit of a "religious" debate... the old-style thrust bearings are built using 3 separate parts and have about twice the thrust surface area of the new bearing design (one part with an integrated lip on both sides).   There have been some reports of the new design self-machining the crank surface.... the idea being half the surface area equals double the force on the crank.

So, some people buy two sets of bearings, toss the thrust bearing, and re-use 2 of the 3 pieces of the old thrust bearing along with a new shell.


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Reply #8June 06, 2007, 11:59:36 pm

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« Reply #8 on: June 06, 2007, 11:59:36 pm »
anyone have the link here?

Reply #9June 07, 2007, 04:27:49 am

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« Reply #9 on: June 07, 2007, 04:27:49 am »
well i think all that i am going to do is make sure i put the bottom end back together the way it was originally (if the bearings that the machine shop buy look any different, then they will not be going in..).. i mean it's been driven for 130'000km or so and looks good to me!

all this thrust washer and bearings not to buy... hmmmm

so I need 4 thrust washers correct?

http://parts.autopartsonlinecanada.com/parts/apocanada/wizard.jsp?year=1996&make=VW&model=PAS-TD-001&category=A&part=Thrust+Bearing

and I need this, correct? Are the kollbenschmidt any better than other brands like their pistons???

http://parts.autopartsonlinecanada.com/parts/apocanada/quote.jsp?year=1996&product=A2030-125994&application=000561278&part=Rod%20Bearing%20Set&category=A

And I need this set right? without thrust washers???

http://parts.autopartsonlinecanada.com/parts/apocanada/quote.jsp?year=1996&product=A2010-188744&application=001060260&part=Main%20Bearing%20Set&category=A

anything else i should get?


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Reply #10June 07, 2007, 08:27:26 pm

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« Reply #10 on: June 07, 2007, 08:27:26 pm »
You got it.

Have you miked your oil pump... they're cheap from these guys and nows the time to do it if your's is worn.

Other thoughtsL Oil pan gasket ?  Assembly lube ?  New oil filter for the  minute runin ?
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Reply #11June 08, 2007, 09:54:07 am

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« Reply #11 on: June 08, 2007, 09:54:07 am »
new oil filter and i have the windage tray that comes with the reusable rubber gasket.

i bought assembly lube & quickseat from total seal too.  i'm probably buying a new oil pump just to be sure... and water pump too.


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Reply #12June 08, 2007, 10:22:53 am

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« Reply #12 on: June 08, 2007, 10:22:53 am »
Hmmm... did you find a Canadian supplier for the windage tray ??
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Reply #13June 08, 2007, 11:24:06 am

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« Reply #13 on: June 08, 2007, 11:24:06 am »
carquest should be able to get it for you. I might still have the world-pac #
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Reply #14June 08, 2007, 10:15:06 pm

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« Reply #14 on: June 08, 2007, 10:15:06 pm »
Quote from: Vincent Waldon
Hmmm... did you find a Canadian supplier for the windage tray ??


That autopartsonlinecanada.com has them.

 

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