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June 02, 2007, 11:03:59 am

overdrivegear

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Analyzing wear on injector nozzles
« on: June 02, 2007, 11:03:59 am »
I think it might be time to replace my injectors with brand new ones.  The thing is that they work ok and the engine runs fine enough, but with 350k miles, it might be time for some new ones.  I haven't pulled them off yet, but my question is how will I be able to determine if my injectors need replacement? (the IP was just rebuilt).  I would think that after that length of usage, they more than likely need a change out.
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Reply #1June 02, 2007, 11:09:42 am

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« Reply #1 on: June 02, 2007, 11:09:42 am »
You need to get them pressure tested. You can't tell just by looking at the nozzles. The person you does the pressure testing can then adjust them to open at the right pressure. Find a diesel specialty shop to get this done.
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Reply #2June 02, 2007, 11:55:14 am

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« Reply #2 on: June 02, 2007, 11:55:14 am »
Mileage is also a good clue... 60K-100K is probably enough for a set of nozzles.... so if you're sure yours have 350K on them treat your engine to a new set... your pistons, mileage, and the environment will thank you.

BTW, the nozzle part of the injector (the part that does all the work) can be removed and replaced all by itself... often significantly cheaper than replacing the entire injector, although you'll still want to have them tested for the correct breaking pressure.
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Reply #3June 02, 2007, 04:53:17 pm

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« Reply #3 on: June 02, 2007, 04:53:17 pm »
overdrivegear,

I own an 81' VW diesel N/A such as yours. Is yours a 4 speed? If so, what is your top speed in 4th gear? And at how many rpm? Mine I think might need injectors rebuilt and pump timed. My little 4spd is screaming at 50 mph.
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Reply #4June 03, 2007, 07:08:43 pm

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« Reply #4 on: June 03, 2007, 07:08:43 pm »
I was thinking the same thing when I recently had my injection pump rebuilt.  Bought a set of rebuilt injectors from a good source and installed.  The car developed a bad case of nailing so I took the old injectors to a local diesel shop.  Even after 300K miles, they still had a good spray pattern and would break at the correct pressure.  Put the old injectors back in and my problem was solved.  Find a diesel shop and ask them to test the injectors.  If they check out ok, reinstall with new heat shields.  Just my .02.

Reply #5June 03, 2007, 09:15:00 pm

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« Reply #5 on: June 03, 2007, 09:15:00 pm »
Quote from: "vegfuel"

I own an 81' VW diesel N/A such as yours. Is yours a 4 speed? If so, what is your top speed in 4th gear? And at how many rpm? Mine I think might need injectors rebuilt and pump timed. My little 4spd is screaming at 50 mph.


I had a 4 speed rabbit, I could cruise at 60 and the engine was happy, top speed was about 70-75 but the car had other issues

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