Author Topic: Please help me remove my head! What is this tin plate!? (Read 9325 times)

Lord0pants · « **on:** February 20, 2007, 04:09:13 am »

Hello gents-
I'm trying to remove a head from a 1.6TD engine which is still in the car...
I've got everything removed from the head;- bolts, fuel lines etc so it should lift clear, BUT
There is some kind of tin plate/shield between the head/block and the sprockets... I've undone all the bolts from the plate i can see and the top half is loose- but the lower part is solid and it seems to be this that is preventing me from removing the head.
(The head is loose but wont lift away at the sproket end)

Can anybody throw some light on this!?
How do you guys usually remove a 1.6TD head? I removed an Audi one yesterday and didn;t have this problem!!!!

It's an '87 JR engine.

AAARRRGGGHH etc. :x

SMOKEYDUB · « **Reply #1 on:** February 20, 2007, 04:20:44 am »

Look carefully around that area there are some 10 mm or 8mm bolts that are kind of hidden 1 or 2 of them at the most as soon as you take those out your done.

g-spec · « **Reply #2 on:** February 20, 2007, 04:29:15 am »

Have you tried removing the cam pulley??? it is possible to remove the head without removing the shield!!!!

burn_your_money · « **Reply #3 on:** February 20, 2007, 05:33:19 am »

The cam pulley has to be removed if this is a mk2. There is a bolt that holds the oil return line to the block at the back of the engine. Make sure that one is removed. I occasionally forget about that one.

Lord0pants · « **Reply #4 on:** February 20, 2007, 05:37:45 am »

Brilliant guys- as ever you are fantastic!!
Any tips for locking the cam in place in order to remove the sprocket?

burn_your_money · « **Reply #5 on:** February 20, 2007, 09:29:27 am »

tap it with a hammer, no need to lock it. Don't hit it too hard, it will shatter but they are pretty strong.

Lord0pants · « **Reply #6 on:** February 20, 2007, 11:36:14 am »

Gentlemen!
Once again you have helped me no end!
I'm one nut away from freeing the head now...
The Turbo-Oil feed pipe from the sump...
Any tips? It's not very accessible with the engine in situe and I don;t want to remove it... Any suggestions!?

Can you also confirm that the pipe is also the secured by one of the mounts? Or am I making that up...

Are these always such a ba*tard to remove?

Thank you all sooo much!

Alex

burn_your_money · « **Reply #7 on:** February 20, 2007, 12:03:54 pm »

Quote from: "Lord0pants"

The Turbo-Oil feed pipe from the sump...
Any tips?

Can you also confirm that the pipe is also the secured by one of the mounts? Or am I making that up...

Wear a long sleeved shirt so you don't scratch your arms all up. You aren't removing the drain line form the turbo right?

what pipe are you talking about?

The feed line is the one from the oil filter, drain is the one from the pan

Vincent Waldon · « **Reply #8 on:** February 20, 2007, 12:15:45 pm »

I use a 27mm crowsfoot on the turbo oil fitting at the oil pan... seemed to be the only way to get enough torque and not bust my knuckles. Actually bought a cheap crowsfoot set and widened out the 24mm.

Lord0pants · « **Reply #9 on:** February 20, 2007, 04:35:49 pm »

Yeah- getting enough torque is a real problem.
And Yeah I'm talking about the oil line from the sump/pan to the turbo.

I just can't seem to get enough purchase on the nut which is SERIOUSLY tight. Anyway, like I said before- thank you all for your help! I think it'll just be a case of perseverance. Failing that- removing the engine- but I really don't want to do that!

Thanks guys,

Alex

Lord0pants · « **Reply #10 on:** February 20, 2007, 04:41:21 pm »

Actually- one final Q....
Is the oil-return from the turbo secured in a clip above the mount too?
Though I haven't freed off the bottom nut yet, It seems that the line is very solid and I think it's secured further up the pipe above the mount?

Just wondering if you guys could confirm/deny?

Is he ever satisfied?? :wink:

Alex

burn_your_money · « **Reply #11 on:** February 20, 2007, 04:50:36 pm »

yes it has another connector at the top of the block. I've never had a real problem with the return line, I just climb under the car and give 'er diesel

Vincent Waldon · « **Reply #12 on:** February 20, 2007, 04:59:15 pm »

27mm crowfoot, bit of an extension, longish ratchet, pull hard and off she will come !! It's a very solid bung (at least it was on my oil pan) so you can reef on it and not worry.

I soaked mine in Liquid Wrench about 10 minutes before starting... that might help as well.

Lord0pants · « **Reply #13 on:** February 21, 2007, 02:57:14 am »

OK gents- brilliant.
I'll soak the b*stard then give it some elbow grease!

Alex

anarchyx34 · « **Reply #14 on:** February 21, 2007, 12:49:41 pm »

Quote from: burn_your_money

tap it with a hammer, no need to lock it. Don't hit it too hard, it will shatter but they are pretty strong.

There's a hole in the back of the shield behind the sprocket. Use a punch though this hole and a light tap. Should pop right off if it wasnt overtorqued in the first place.

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