Author Topic: Car wont start. GRRRRR... (Read 6698 times)

anarchyx34 · « **on:** January 26, 2007, 06:52:06 am »

At a brisk 9F, it's the coldest morning of the year here, and my 1.6td wont start. I've tried everything, including giving it some help from another car with jumper cables, and nothing. It is cranking somewhat slowly, but not slower than I've ever heard it crank before. Think my fuel might've gelled up? I'm sure my Rotella 15w-40 isnt helping matters.

Dr. Diesel · « **Reply #1 on:** January 26, 2007, 10:23:52 am »

if all else fails, towing them in gear usually will make it fire, unless the fuel's solid. In that case, put a seperate gerrycan of fuel under the hood and pipe the supply and return into it. Get her fired up and drive it somewhere warm to thaw it out. Don't forget your winterizing fuel additives!

jtanguay · « **Reply #2 on:** January 26, 2007, 10:35:06 am »

Quote from: Dr. Diesel

if all else fails, towing them in gear usually will make it fire, unless the fuel's solid. In that case, put a seperate gerrycan of fuel under the hood and pipe the supply and return into it. Get her fired up and drive it somewhere warm to thaw it out. Don't forget your winterizing fuel additives!

today i was driving to give my mom a boost (van has some kind of battery leak...) and the car was idling really really rough... tank was low so i filled it right up with some power service conditioner and no more troubles. on that tank i didnt add power service and just neglected to do it... it really does make a difference!

Doug · « **Reply #3 on:** January 26, 2007, 07:07:08 pm »

If you don't have a block heater then put a coleman stove under the oil pan but don't walk away just in case some of those oil leaks decide to ignite! Any source of heat will help. Probably you have a few "lost in action" glow plugs too. Is the GP relay working? They usually quit on the coldest day. If not then jumper the glow bus directly to the battery for a minute or so then crank. Don't forget to take the jumper off though.

burn_your_money · « **Reply #4 on:** January 26, 2007, 07:14:03 pm »

Rotella 15-40 is super thick at that temperature. You should really get it changed. Go synthetic, it's amazing how it flows.
I second the towing it in gear motion, reverse or second usually work best for me.

insdtanoodles · « **Reply #5 on:** January 26, 2007, 08:52:46 pm »

if you need some heat to start in the cold mornings get a trouble light with the highest wattage incandescent lightbulb you can put in it and just turn it on and leave it under your car

anarchyx34 · « **Reply #6 on:** January 27, 2007, 06:10:07 am »

Well I tried again this morning at 23f. Still didnt go, but I think now I'm at the point where the battery is dead from trying so much. We're supposed to get a high of 40f, and I'm going to jump start it again. If that doesn't work I'm going to get a can of last resort (ether). My glow plugs are all brand new and they're definitely working. I think cranking speed is my issue here.

I'm concerned about putting synthetic in this car for a couple of reasons, one, is that it's already leaking oil recently from the rear main seal and the oil cooler seal. Between that and the blowby this motor has I'm already adding a quart every 800 miles. I'm figuring it'll be twice as bad with synth and at $5.00/qt I'm not going there. I'm just going to put some regular off the shelf 5w-30 in there for the time being. I dont think it'll hurt the motor too terribly.

insdtanoodles · « **Reply #7 on:** January 27, 2007, 08:51:39 am »

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Well I tried again this morning at 23f. Still didnt go, but I think now I'm at the point where the battery is dead from trying so much. We're supposed to get a high of 40f, and I'm going to jump start it again. If that doesn't work I'm going to get a can of last resort (ether). My glow plugs are all brand new and they're definitely working. I think cranking speed is my issue here.

I'm concerned about putting synthetic in this car for a couple of reasons, one, is that it's already leaking oil recently from the rear main seal and the oil cooler seal. Between that and the blowby this motor has I'm already adding a quart every 800 miles. I'm figuring it'll be twice as bad with synth and at $5.00/qt I'm not going there. I'm just going to put some regular off the shelf 5w-30 in there for the time being. I dont think it'll hurt the motor too terribly.

if you ever get around to fixing you oil cooler, the rubber seal on an oil filter fits right inside the oil cooler. I had taken my oil cooler apart without have a new gasket so I popped of one from an older oil filter and it works great

jtanguay · « **Reply #8 on:** January 27, 2007, 09:07:47 am »

i'm using 5w50 just to try out... i haven't much if any oil and my turbo seems to spool quite a bit better than with the other dino oil... could be that the oil needed to be changed, and that synthetic comes with nice detergents too

maybe you should try 5w50... really thick stuff i doubt it will leak/burn on you

anarchyx34 · « **Reply #9 on:** January 27, 2007, 09:55:27 am »

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if you ever get around to fixing you oil cooler, the rubber seal on an oil filter fits right inside the oil cooler. I had taken my oil cooler apart without have a new gasket so I popped of one from an older oil filter and it works great

Awesome! Thanks for the tip. Kinda makes sense when you think about it.

jtanguay · « **Reply #10 on:** January 27, 2007, 10:57:09 pm »

well seems as though my oil level has gone down a tad... so far 400km put on the new oil so thats not too bad

i'll have to check the regular culprits for signs of leakage.

745 turbogreasel · « **Reply #11 on:** January 28, 2007, 01:36:45 am »

I was able to unstrap the filter on my friends Jetta, and immerse it in a pitcher of boiling water. The whole filter reached 90F pretty quick.

clbanman · « **Reply #12 on:** January 28, 2007, 02:55:43 pm »

Hello. Don't know if you've got the car running yet. It's warmed up a fair bit here the last 24 hours, so hopefully. On our trucks at work we occasionally have starting problems due to them being parked outside overnight in the winter. We found that in most cases it was due to water freezing inside the fuel filters. I guess the water gets into the filter media and freezes there before it does in the lines. You might try using that hair dryer to warm just your underhood fuel filter and see if that helps.

anarchyx34 · « **Reply #13 on:** January 28, 2007, 06:03:36 pm »

Yeah I finally got it started yesterday. It was about 35f out and with the help of some jumper cables, it finally started. I'm going to put 5w-30 in until this cold snap is over with.

jtanguay · « **Reply #14 on:** January 29, 2007, 01:48:02 pm »

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Yeah I finally got it started yesterday. It was about 35f out and with the help of some jumper cables, it finally started. I'm going to put 5w-30 in until this cold snap is over with.

don't be too surprised when your motor sounds really loud & loose. hehe your best bet is to run 0w40 if you can find it over there. even 5w40 is a good trade-off. 5w30 will still make your lifters sound a bit noisy even when fully warm.

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