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November 03, 2004, 07:27:59 pm

Justin

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Just a few Questions,

-What years were the 1.5L made?

-What year did the production for the 1.6L start??

-What is the bore and stroke for the 1.9 liter and can the crankshaft be placed in the 1.5 or 1.6 for a stroker application?? just some ideas that i have been kicking around

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Reply #1November 04, 2004, 01:38:44 am

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« Reply #1 on: November 04, 2004, 01:38:44 am »
Quote from: "Justin"
Just a few Questions,

-What years were the 1.5L made?

-What year did the production for the 1.6L start??

-What is the bore and stroke for the 1.9 liter and can the crankshaft be placed in the 1.5 or 1.6 for a stroker application?? just some ideas that i have been kicking around

later
justin


The 1.5 should have been 75-79, the 1.6 would have been 80-92 with varying production levels. The TDI is a 79.5mm bore and a 95.5mm stroke. I don't really know what rods the TDI used though. Can anyone answer if the TDI was a tall block and which rods it used?

Reply #2November 04, 2004, 09:04:13 am

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« Reply #2 on: November 04, 2004, 09:04:13 am »
no for the 1.5d is 78-80 or little late

Reply #3November 04, 2004, 09:36:25 am

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« Reply #3 on: November 04, 2004, 09:36:25 am »
Quote from: "Justin"
Just a few Questions,

-What years were the 1.5L made?

-What year did the production for the 1.6L start??



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Reply #4November 04, 2004, 10:00:16 am

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« Reply #4 on: November 04, 2004, 10:00:16 am »
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Can anyone answer if the TDI was a tall block and which rods it used?


The AHU and 1Z TDI engines use the same block casting as the 1.9TD. the only apparent difference is the lack of machining of the crank position sensor hole. The block is 12mm (or is it 20mm?) taller than a 1.6 block. The TDI uses its own connecting rods which are different from the 1.9TD rods. Both 1.9TD and TDI are rods are wider at the bearing than the 1.6.  The 1.9 block has added clearance for the longer stroke crank. The back of the block has 4 large bulges over the crank throws. The crank cannot be used in an earlier 1.5/1.6 block, it simply won't fit. It will fit some gas engines however...

 The later ALH TDI engines are a completely new block. They are shorter than the AHU/1Z and do not have an intermediate shaft. The oil pump is driven via a chain from the crank and the vacuum pump is driven by the camshaft. There are so many other differences that I doubt that any of the parts are interchangable with the older diesels.

Reply #5November 04, 2004, 02:36:25 pm

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« Reply #5 on: November 04, 2004, 02:36:25 pm »
1.5L diesel offered until 1980, 1.6L production started the same year with turbo diesels coming in 1982.

Reply #6November 04, 2004, 03:11:37 pm

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« Reply #6 on: November 04, 2004, 03:11:37 pm »
My 1980 had a 1.5, bought new off the lot.
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Reply #7November 04, 2004, 03:35:53 pm

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« Reply #7 on: November 04, 2004, 03:35:53 pm »
So I guess there were a few 80's that still had 1.5's.

Reply #8November 04, 2004, 04:30:40 pm

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« Reply #8 on: November 04, 2004, 04:30:40 pm »
production switched to the 1.6 in July 1980  :)

Reply #9November 07, 2004, 07:01:40 pm

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« Reply #9 on: November 07, 2004, 07:01:40 pm »
Quote from: "caddy"
no for the 1.5d is 78-80 or little late


You're both wrong about this (as is everyone else I have read so far).  The 1.5 diesel was actually first put in a golf in 1973.  One of these cars drove to Alaska and is now in the Wolfsburg Museum in Germany (right outside the big Volkswagen plant).  First diesel golfs/rabbits in Canada were 1977s, and they stopped importing them from Germany in 1980 (these were the last 1.5 diesels in North America).  In 1979 the Westmoreland PA plant also started building golfs/rabbits, and the first ones were the small square headlight golfs/rabbits.  The diesels were all 1.6s.  So if you have a Westmoreland built golf/rabbit, and it is a diesel, it will be a 1.6, regardless of when it was built.  If you have a German built golf/rabbit, and it is a diesel, it will be a 1.5, regardless of when it was built.  The germans started building the new, improved Golf/rabbit in 1981 (big plastic bumpers, new interior, bigger engine, still had the round headlights - they didn't get rid of these in Germany until 1993 with the introduction of the Golf III) but we never got these cars in North America.  All our golfs/rabbits from 1981 onwards came from Westmoreland PA (big square headlight cars).  All the diesels were 1.6s.
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Reply #10November 07, 2004, 08:55:02 pm

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« Reply #10 on: November 07, 2004, 08:55:02 pm »
my car had a 1.5 in it when i bought it... its a PA car  :wink:

Reply #11November 08, 2004, 11:11:26 pm

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« Reply #11 on: November 08, 2004, 11:11:26 pm »
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my car had a 1.5 in it when i bought it... its a PA car  :wink:


weird.  maybe they were importing the engines from germany.  As far as I know, they only built 1.6s in PA.  Does your car have the small square headlights?
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