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November 18, 2006, 11:21:09 am

hillfolk'r

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whats with this new 15ppm diesel fuel??
« on: November 18, 2006, 11:21:09 am »
im not sure about this new fuel
my car seems a little low on power
whats a good additive to add cetane and lubricity?
im thinkin redline or stanadyne
that is fine for my car i suppose
but my dad wants  to add something in his 03 golf tdi too
whats a safe additive for the cat equipped vehicles?
maybe list the additives that are good for non cat vehicles
then list the additives for cat equipped vehicles too


Throttle cables ftw

Reply #1November 18, 2006, 12:15:58 pm

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whats with this new 15ppm diesel fuel??
« Reply #1 on: November 18, 2006, 12:15:58 pm »
ULSD has 1% less BTU's in it compared to LSD so it's probably a combo of winterized diesel that is sucking right about now :(

Powerservice is a good aditive or stenadyne.  I use a slurry of Powerservice, canola oil and 2 stroke ashless synthetic outboard.
Waiting for a bigger better diesel to come along.
2002 ford focme wagon

Reply #2November 20, 2006, 12:19:19 am

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whats with this new 15ppm diesel fuel??
« Reply #2 on: November 20, 2006, 12:19:19 am »
The ULSD that I have run through is defineately lacking on the lubricity, when I pull on the CS cable with USLD its almost like the car is off, when I have B20 i get about a 4th of the way pulled out before I can feel the timing advance piston. the B20 defineately advances the timing faster. I suspect that your timing curve is lacking and thats why your down on power.

good luck, If it were me I would just start using biodiesel as your additive.

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Justin
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Reply #3November 25, 2006, 01:47:08 am

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whats with this new 15ppm diesel fuel??
« Reply #3 on: November 25, 2006, 01:47:08 am »
nah,its not a mechanical problem
it started occuring when i filled up here in ny the first time
i got some redline fuel catalyst the other day+that woke it up(but i used 2x the recommended dose)
its not an advance problem
Throttle cables ftw

Reply #4November 26, 2006, 11:10:35 am

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whats with this new 15ppm diesel fuel??
« Reply #4 on: November 26, 2006, 11:10:35 am »
i'm gonna guess it's just the winterized bs, i haven't noticed a difference on any of my cars yet... but i'm waiting, but i also would have a hard time noticing since i have been switching back and forth between cars
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Reply #5November 26, 2006, 11:43:16 pm

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« Reply #5 on: November 26, 2006, 11:43:16 pm »
yea thats what i was also thinkin
i found one good lift pump in the stackof 15 that i have :roll:
when ihave good lift pump pressure,the power is pretty good,like normal
somost of the problem seems to be the pump,and like maybe 10%is because of the fuel
lol,the "good"lift pump that i installed recently only worked good for 2 days
im researching a better pump,and i may even try  a cis gas pump,only thing is i gotta find a good regulator,i think

as far as the 15ppm fuel, my dad found our old stash of a case of 32 oz bottles of lubro moly diesel hi test,so that will help for now
when that runs out, i am tempted to add 2 stroke oil like mentioned before,just for the lubricity
Throttle cables ftw

Reply #6November 27, 2006, 05:59:27 am

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whats with this new 15ppm diesel fuel??
« Reply #6 on: November 27, 2006, 05:59:27 am »
I have been using Power Service Diesel Kleen forever, I usually add it 1 1/2 to double strength. I found it always stood up to it's claims of less smoke and increased MPG, 10% in my case, which easily pays for itself..

With ULSD at the pumps now I worry that may not be enough.

Years ago a diesel mechanic told me it was a good idea to run a quart of Type F non synthetic automatic transmission fluid through ever couple of tank fulls. He said it keeps everything clean and lubed.

I also used to work with another old timer that had a Datsun pickup with 350K miles on it, he swore by using Marvel MysteryOil in both the gas tank and crank case.

I was thinking along the lines of Slave2School. A cocktail of Canola, Power Service, and ATF or MMO.

Slave2School, mind if ask the recipie?? and how much per gallon you use.

Reply #7November 28, 2006, 02:59:23 am

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« Reply #7 on: November 28, 2006, 02:59:23 am »
yea i use atf every once in a while if i have it
sometimes ill prime filters with it
and marvel is good too
some guy at the airport got an old plane running that was sitting for 3 years
and it had sticking valves
we put a bunch of marvel in the fuel and ran it out of a can
whadda you know 20mins of running and no more sticky valves
thats usually caused by gas turning to varnish /gum and making the valve hang in the guide
yea i would think anything with lubrication would help out the pump and injectors,probably even a qt. of cheap motor oil thrown in on a fillup would help
Throttle cables ftw

 

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