1.9td vs. tdi-m

[kx250crasher]

I am looking to replace my old 1.6 n/a  and wondering which of these engines would be the best. I know they both make good power and are fairly easy to get more power out of. The place I am planning on buying the engine from says the 1.9td makes 75hp and 114ft/lbs . I guess my real question is which would be easier to make power with and which would be easier to install. It is going in an 82 rabbit.

[stewardc]

The AAZ 1.9 TD would be much easier to install and makes almost as much as a TDI when intercooled and massaged a bit. The tdi-m does not have the right mounts to go in a Mk 1, so it can be a real pain.

[scopefrfd]

An early tdi AHU/1Z has the right mounting holes to run in a MK1.  The M-tdi is better than a 1,9td.  A few days ago it was in the 40's in the am and my m-tdi started right up with no glowplugs...the relay wasn't even in the fusebox....try that with a 1.6 or 1.9 IDI, it won't start.  They're noiser than an IDI though so if you want quiet get a 1.9td.

[burn_your_money]

TDIs get better mileage. They are a lower RPM engine

[macsdub]

i had a 1.6td,it was pretty quick
15.79@ 85 .something
never had a 1.9 td,but id take a tdi-m anyday over those other 2 engines
this things such a torque monster
never seen a td that can spin its tires in the rain at 60 to pass someone
and its a useless thing till i get up into 3rd gear,even then,its a handful
best et with the tdi-m is a [email protected]
if i get a td again,yea,ill run it+minor tweak on it,but the tdi-m really owns
i got videos+stuff all over here
either search onder this screenname,or under hillfolk'r

[kx250crasher]

Thank you guys. Hey hillfolk'r how hard was it to drop the motor in? What mods have you done and where did you get the motor from? I have watched the vids and that is one awsome rabbit.

[macsdub]

dude it bolts right in
mines  a Mk3 engine,its the "same" as all the early stuff we love basically
and the mk4 is the one to avoid,cause that requires mount fabrication+stuff
i got the motor here
http://www.vwdiesel.net/phpBB/viewtopic.php?t=1046&highlight=tdi+longblock
 
it probably would have ran fine,just for an as is engine
but i had a bunch of money burning a hole in my pocket so i rebuilt it :lol:
hmm where to start on mods....
custom total seal rings
kerma race 520 nozzles
raceware studs(main+head)
mild porting job,nothin crazy,just cleaning up whats there
nice valvejob(new guides+valves)
lots of little things
12mm td pump built by kevin@ r+r engine&machine akron ohio
clutchnet "red" clutch
other stuff too much to list
including my mistakes it cost me about 5k to build my engine setup
1 mistake was that you dont need to buy a new rear seal carrier cause its 1 piece vulcanized
instead,you get an old style carrier from a junk old 1.6 na "anything" and a 15$ seal
easy+done
but i got ripped off,cause i didnt know yet
so i didnt know they were the same as the old ones+they sold me a new seal/carrier,but the a**holes just sole me a new "old" style carrier/seal setup to the tune of about 95 bucks
oh yea and valves were like 30 a piece too from these folks,then i found them for 22
this place is supposed to have good prices+service,but i sure didnt get any....

so that was a "mistake"
just be careful who you deal with

lol i been thru the ringer on clutches too,so that required further monetary learning too,that i didnt expect

OH YAY  im goin to get my new gearbox tomorrow,i found one in CT
its a ASF code,nice+wide with a 3.67
and i found another 7A!!!!
i was thinkin about puttin the 3.67 from the ASF in the 7A
i was doin some research on this
http://www.scirocco.org/gears/vwtrannyratios.xls

and with a 4500 redline and a 3.67 with a .71 5th gear,thats good for like 130 mph

 :shock: