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August 28, 2006, 08:15:33 pm
Mk2Fanatic
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I've got access to a 1.9l 2003 ALH montor that has 113000km when a valve was dropped on cylinder 4. Needless to say the ensuing catastrophic engine damage has resulted in a customer getting a replacement motor installed through our shop and me be the owner of the $5000 anchor. I've pulled the head as it's pretty much junk. Piston 4 is also useless, but the bore was luckily not damaged( you can still see the factory honing marks in the bores). The crank still spins freely, although I suspect the no4 rod might be bent(I'll know tomorrow).
Being a VW only repair shop in Windsor Ontario, I've got access to quite a few engines. We have a couple 1.6 NA and TD engines. I'm wondering if either a 1.6/1.9 head and matching IP can be bolted on and used on the TDI bottom end. If I replace the 4th piston and possibly the rod can the 1.6 head play nice with the tdi bottom end and actally work properly?
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August 28, 2006, 09:16:20 pm
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There's probably going to be a lot of problems using it. I would say that you will probably need 1.9 crank + rods + pistons + 1.9 head. All AAZ. You could fit a 1.6 head on a 1.9... but its not going to allow the motor to breathe the way it was meant to.
Or... find a nice TDI head and get a TDI mech pump
... Wonder how that valve broke inside the cylinder? That has got to be some super bad luck, or VW's quality control isn't doing their job right.
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August 28, 2006, 09:18:19 pm
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The short answer here is no. No IDI head that I know of will work on there so that engine must stay with direct injection. So, either get another head, piston, and rod or use the engine for parts.
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August 28, 2006, 09:21:16 pm
Mk2Fanatic
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What about using the tdi block, 1.9 idi pistons/rods and an idi head?
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August 28, 2006, 09:26:12 pm
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An ALH engine has different passages between the head and the block. It's not like the AHU/1Z where they shared the same block between the IDI and the TDI with the main difference being the crank sensor.
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August 29, 2006, 06:04:48 am
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August 29, 2006, 06:04:48 am »
Mk2Fanatic,
what kind of shape is the camshaft in? I am interested in the whole junk head for parts that I am lacking on my TDI head.
Let me know what you want for it if the cam is good.
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August 31, 2006, 10:34:12 am
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vwmike, do you know if the cam from Mk2Fanatic's head will work in the earlier TDI heads? if so I want to buy Mk2Fanatic's head and cam and everything for parts
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