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Reply #45June 13, 2008, 08:44:35 am

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« Reply #45 on: June 13, 2008, 08:44:35 am »
Quote from: "vdubin_g60"
where i can i get a hold of him couldn;t find anything on ebay. thanks


Try these guys:

http://www.egauges.com/vdo_mult.asp?Type=Pyrometer&Series=Vision&Units=E




Lead wires:

Libbybapa had bulk lead wire for very reasonable price, so if you need some contact him first befor buying it off of Egauges.

http://www.egauges.com/vdo_send.asp?Sender=ISSPRO_Pyrometer_Lead





OOOO, lookit!:



Any one want a brand new, still in the bag, 0 - 30 PSI VDO boost gauge?  I might have one for sale now.
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Reply #46June 13, 2008, 11:17:48 am

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« Reply #46 on: June 13, 2008, 11:17:48 am »
http://www.egauges.com/vdo_mult.asp?Type=Pyrometer&Series=Cockpit&Units=E


this is the only place i found really. has anyone used them.  didn't feel too confident using them.[/quote]

Reply #47June 13, 2008, 12:14:38 pm

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« Reply #47 on: June 13, 2008, 12:14:38 pm »
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http://www.egauges.com/vdo_mult.asp?Type=Pyrometer&Series=Cockpit&Units=E


this is the only place i found really. has anyone used them.  didn't feel too confident using them.
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I've bought a couple gauges from them.  They're OK in my book; fair price, fast shipping.  What more do you want?
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Reply #48June 13, 2008, 05:43:57 pm

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« Reply #48 on: June 13, 2008, 05:43:57 pm »
sounds good i'll give them a try.

is there a difference between the $80 vision series and the $70 black cockpit one?

just the way it lights up.

Reply #49June 13, 2008, 10:55:05 pm

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« Reply #49 on: June 13, 2008, 10:55:05 pm »
The vision series is backlit and looks way cooler, the cockpit one is frontlit, so it looks more stock. I'm gonna have a cockpit EGT gauge and a vision boost gauge, kinda bothers me 'cause I would rather have both vision. :roll:
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I removed the turbo, made a toilet bowl 2.5" DP, the result....it was deafening. Now it has a homemade muffler up front and a thrush in the rear, the result.....less loud.
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Reply #50June 13, 2008, 11:56:08 pm

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« Reply #50 on: June 13, 2008, 11:56:08 pm »
well i ordered the vision one.  :D

Reply #51June 15, 2008, 12:28:55 pm

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« Reply #51 on: June 15, 2008, 12:28:55 pm »
Well I just installed my Aircraft spruce thermocouple yesterday, man what a difference!! It'll actually pause between shifts as I speed up. Max temp in 5th gear going about 83MPH was 1160F. So after I get my turbo on I'll get to crank the fuel up a bit. :twisted:
'82 Rabbit, I put on a euro vnt-15, 2.25" DP, 2.5" exhaust, the result.....it whistled.

I removed the turbo, made a toilet bowl 2.5" DP, the result....it was deafening. Now it has a homemade muffler up front and a thrush in the rear, the result.....less loud.
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Reply #52June 15, 2008, 08:29:49 pm

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« Reply #52 on: June 15, 2008, 08:29:49 pm »
Here's a quick size comparisom.

The VDO thermocouple is in the middle.

The Spruce thermocouple is on the right.



The philips screw driver on the left is there for a size reference.

The VDO themocouple is slow.

The Spruce thermocouple is stinky fast.
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Reply #53June 16, 2008, 02:24:51 pm

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« Reply #53 on: June 16, 2008, 02:24:51 pm »
Oh, By the way, The VDO probe uses a 1/4 NPT adaptor.  I hozed up and bought a Spruce probe with a 1/8" adaptor.  I called Aircraft spruce, and they said they can't just send me the adaptor.

I have the probe mounted with a 1/8" to 1/4" brass adaptor on th 1/8" adaptor

So i have another probe comming and will have a brand new probe, and a used 1/8" adaptor available if anyone needs one.

In the 1.6TD, the Spruce thermocouple almost rises as fast as the boost gauge.  It stabilizes at 1450 F on hard acceleration.  Pritty high, but its rare that it sees that for more than 10 seconds at a wack.  And I have the piston cooling jets helping things out. I always wondered what the max EGT was when I was running the VDO probe, but it took so long to kind of stabilise, I was going over 90 MPH.
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Reply #54July 05, 2008, 09:49:43 pm

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« Reply #54 on: July 05, 2008, 09:49:43 pm »
Quick question about the EGT gauges. I have a VDO EGT gauge and the wiring from it has its own kind of plug to the gauge. Do all EGT gauges have the same kind of electrical connector and are all EGT gauges
supplied with some kind of connector from the gauge to the pyrometer connection?
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Reply #55December 16, 2008, 10:04:58 pm

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« Reply #55 on: December 16, 2008, 10:04:58 pm »
Sorry to resurrect an old thread here...  Gonna do the VDO gauge / Spruce thermo.  Just want to confirm - I assume it's impossible / a bad idea to try to drill/tap the manifold on the car.  ...Or am I being paranoid here?

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Reply #56December 16, 2008, 11:54:36 pm

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« Reply #56 on: December 16, 2008, 11:54:36 pm »
Personally, I would prefer to pull the manifold.  I hate trying do things like drill in really awkward places that don't have much room.  It will also be far easier to ensure that no chips get into the turbo.

That being said, I've never done it in the car, so maybe it's not as bad as I think.  :lol:
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Reply #57December 17, 2008, 08:18:21 am

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« Reply #57 on: December 17, 2008, 08:18:21 am »
I've done it both ways. I wouldn't really be all that concerned about getting metal in the manifold, grease the bit and most of the shavings will stick to the drill bit. Its a PITA doing it on the car though. More of a pain than removing the turbo and manifold? Not sure.

Your call.
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Reply #58December 17, 2008, 08:26:09 am

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« Reply #58 on: December 17, 2008, 08:26:09 am »
i wonder if you somehow hooked up positive pressure going to the turbo as you drilled it so any shavings/bits would be pushed outward...  might be more trouble than its worth though?  how about just running the car with an open hole and giving it a good few revs?  :twisted: then install the probe and enjoy?  8)


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Reply #59December 17, 2008, 09:03:07 am

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« Reply #59 on: December 17, 2008, 09:03:07 am »
I would pull in and drill on a drill press. When I tried to drill mine free hand, at the end of the cutting the bit snags causing the drill to tilt ever so slightly and it cracked the manifold. The second drill was on a press and was perfect. In the car, I think you would be more contrained if you don't have a drill press to use. Towards the end of this page you'll see my EGT drill and taping.
http://www.vwdiesel.net/phpBB/viewtopic.php?t=15633&start=0

 

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