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Smog · « **on:** September 15, 2004, 08:30:00 am »

Injector nozzles for IDI : 1.6GTD

the price will be 80$can each set of 4 nozzles SHIPPING INCLUDED (Express Post 2 days in Canada)

so how many of you guys are interested ?

caddy · « **Reply #1 on:** September 15, 2004, 10:22:22 am »

gtd nozzle? you mean ra nozzles from the 80hp td?

Smog · « **Reply #2 on:** September 15, 2004, 10:25:30 am »

Quote from: "caddy"

gtd nozzle? you mean ra nozzles from the 80hp td?

yes it's for the RA unless you have another suggestion as the order is not sent yet

oui c'est pour le moteur RA que vous avez en Europe, si tu as une autre suggestion de moteur/nozzle tu as juste a me le dire puisque j'ai pas encore passé de commande.

caddy · « **Reply #3 on:** September 15, 2004, 10:38:33 am »

i know bigger but they need a lot of tune for good work...
they was fitted on range rover2.5td.
i have to found the ref.

i think they need to have bigger break pressure.

Smog · « **Reply #4 on:** September 15, 2004, 10:42:23 am »

Quote from: "caddy"

i know bigger but they need a lot of tune for good work...
they was fitted on range rover2.5td.
i have to found the ref.

i think they need to have bigger break pressure.

first of all I need to know what people want as the minimum order is quite large and I don't want to have a big inventory ($$$).

caddy · « **Reply #5 on:** September 15, 2004, 10:46:12 am »

yes off course!

i think for you the best is the ra nozzles easyer to fit and tune for evryone!

RAMMSTEIN · « **Reply #6 on:** September 15, 2004, 05:08:27 pm »

Caddy, the range rover 2.5td's nozzles don't fit right in there?

What about the 2.5TD from Mercedes?

Blades?

caddy · « **Reply #7 on:** September 16, 2004, 03:04:16 am »

Quote from: "RAMMSTEIN"

Caddy, the range rover 2.5td's nozzles don't fit right in there?

What about the 2.5TD from Mercedes?

Blades?

the range rover's nozzles fit nice, but you have to tune a lot for good idle and good fueling.instead of the RA vw's nozzles who are realy "plug'n'play".

in europe we have a lot of td engine , but the 2.5td mercedes is only a 5 cylinder ( or 6 :?: don't remenber..) and make only about 115 hp or 120 hp.
the range is a 4 cyl with the same power , then i think that the range rover's nozzles are bigger.

so mercedes part are very hard to found because this engine could run more than 700 000 km!!!

Dr. Diesel · « **Reply #8 on:** September 16, 2004, 08:19:12 am »

upping the breaking pressure past a certain point is no good. You have to advance the pump timing proportionately to compensate. This makes for a very noisy engine, with too much advance in the higher revs once the internal advance mechanism kicks in. Maybe Giles has some input here?

caddy · « **Reply #9 on:** September 16, 2004, 10:36:19 am »

Quote from: "Dr. Diesel"

upping the breaking pressure past a certain point is no good. You have to advance the pump timing proportionately to compensate. This makes for a very noisy engine, with too much advance in the higher revs once the internal advance mechanism kicks in. Maybe Giles has some input here?

i know that!
but you don't have to change anything in the internal advancewith higer breaking pressure you only have an offset advance timing, so you juste have to adjuste the statique timing !

RAMMSTEIN · « **Reply #10 on:** September 16, 2004, 06:10:03 pm »

:mrgreen:

ricosuave · « **Reply #11 on:** September 19, 2004, 07:13:04 pm »

what is the part number? is it the one from here?

http://forums.tdiclub.com/showthreaded.php?Cat=&Board=UBB4&Number=133930&page=&view=&sb=5&o=&vc=1

if so, i may be interested. what benefit would your new injectors have over my stock 97 1.9 idi (can) ones?

Smog · « **Reply #12 on:** September 20, 2004, 06:09:55 am »

Quote from: "ricosuave"

what is the part number? is it the one from here?

if so, i may be interested. what benefit would your new injectors have over my stock 97 1.9 idi (can) ones?

il will be nozzles made for the 1.6td GTD; I can't tell if they are upgrade for the 1.9td.

but is your pump maxed out ?

caddy · « **Reply #13 on:** September 20, 2004, 07:45:09 am »

Quote from: "Smog"

Quote from: "ricosuave"
what is the part number? is it the one from here?

if so, i may be interested. what benefit would your new injectors have over my stock 97 1.9 idi (can) ones?

il will be nozzles made for the 1.6td GTD; I can't tell if they are upgrade for the 1.9td.

but is your pump maxed out ?

what is for you the 1.6 gtd?
my first car was a 1.6gtd golf but it have only 70hp. (JR engine)

then you can have ( in europe) the 1.6td 80hp ( intercooler+turbo watercooled) it have 80hp. ( RA & SB engine)

this link talk about the RA injector.
and we usualy use it like an upgrade for the 1.9td engine ( aaz).

Smog · « **Reply #14 on:** September 20, 2004, 09:58:03 am »

Quote from: "caddy"

then you can have ( in europe) the 1.6td 80hp ( intercooler+turbo watercooled) it have 80hp. ( RA & SB engine)

this link talk about the RA injector.
and we usualy use it like an upgrade for the 1.9td engine ( aaz).

I talk about the RA engines.. but nozzles are useless if the pump is not at maxe on the fueling settings (can't bring the Idle down to 900rpm)