1.6TD in a toyota truck

[zooky]

I've been searching, cant find a definate answer. I am rebuilding a 1.6 TD I had picked up cheap for my Samurai. Doing the research on rebuilding it, I kinda came to the conclusion that I dont want to "waste" it in the sami, its not street legal and dosent get driven much, just off road. I want to put it in something that I can daily drive, I commute 100 miles a day and can get some free jet fuel at work.

I was going to retire my '89 4wd Toyota, its getting tired and only gets like 15 MPG. Its stock with 31 inch tires. How would the 1.6 TD do in this truck? Curb weight is under 3000lbs I believe. If I knew it would be OK I would invest a little more in the rebuild like injector, govenor, turbo, intercooler, pump mods. Any guess what kind of highway speeds I could expect?
The 2wd Toyotas seem alot smaller/lighter but I already have the 4wd and would be better in the snow (I dont plan to lift it and take it off road), would this be a better choice for the TD?[/i]

[jtanguay]

I've been searching, cant find a definate answer. I am rebuilding a 1.6 TD I had picked up cheap for my Samurai. Doing the research on rebuilding it, I kinda came to the conclusion that I dont want to "waste" it in the sami, its not street legal and dosent get driven much, just off road. I want to put it in something that I can daily drive, I commute 100 miles a day and can get some free jet fuel at work.

I was going to retire my '89 4wd Toyota, its getting tired and only gets like 15 MPG. Its stock with 31 inch tires. How would the 1.6 TD do in this truck? Curb weight is under 3000lbs I believe. If I knew it would be OK I would invest a little more in the rebuild like injector, govenor, turbo, intercooler, pump mods. Any guess what kind of highway speeds I could expect?
The 2wd Toyotas seem alot smaller/lighter but I already have the 4wd and would be better in the snow (I dont plan to lift it and take it off road), would this be a better choice for the TD?[/i]

Jet Fuel?  :twisted:

[Tusker]

Yeah Zooky, what's with the jet fuel?

[QuickTD]

At just about any airport that services jets or turboprop aircraft there is a bunch of surplus jet fuel kicking around. During the preflight check a few gallons of fuel are drained from each sump in an aircrafts tanks to check for water or other contamination. This fuel cannot be used again in an aircraft so it is normally hauled of for recycling or disposal. At most airports there are a few intrepid mechanics or support personel that are running diesels on this sump fuel. This practice saves the airline the disposal costs and the diesel driver gets free fuel.

 Jet A is just a good grade of kerosene and will run fine in a diesel. It's a bit "dry" but the addition of some oil (something ashless, like 2 cycle oil is best) will bring the lubricity up to usable levels.

[fspGTD]

Moved to Non VW Group Diesel section.

[houseofdiesel]

Don't do it, the truck will be way too slow! I have a Toyota 4X4 with the 2LT toyota turbo diesel, it has enough trouble getting out of its own way and it has 2.4L displacement, 1.6 would not have enough torque to get you moving...on the highway you could probably get enough boost to make it work, it is left hand turns in traffic, starting on a hill that would be deadly slow. Think Mercedes 126 body td with tired motor and the a/c on slow...
It would probably die a quick death in the truck, it would always be 100% throttle. Vanagon diesels seemed to last 100k miles non turbo, turbo ones would probably die a lot faster. (yes, I have a Vanagon diesel too, I know what slow is and I would never consider a 1.6td Vanagon either, 1.9 or better!).
Greg

[zyewdall]

I have a 2.3 liter turbo in my mitsubishi truck, which is about the same size weight as the 4wd toyotas.  It's got plenty of power -- but I've heard that the Isuzu's and rangers with the 2.2 liter non turbo are sort of sluggish.  Although they handle weight well.  Is the 2.4 liter toyota you are talking about the turbo or non-turbo.  I imagine the turbo one would be pretty good, but I've heard that that 2.2 nonturbo toyotas are basically never able to be taken on the highway.....   Personally I think more low end torque would be good in a truck (probably why the 2.2 non turbos survive fine).  

I was planning on putting a 1.6NA into a 1974 Mazda 1800 2wd pickup for a while --- that would have been slow.....  But I bought the mitsubishi instead.  Although if I need a second company truck, I still might try to find a 1.9IDI to put in the mazda.

Just put a little biodiesel in the jet fuel and the lubricity shoudl be fine.  Or pour a bottle of canola oil in there from the grocery store -- if it's not more than a few percent, it shouldn't affect the viscosity enough to make the IP unhappy.

[houseofdiesel]

My Toyota is turbo (2LT is turbo, L, 1L and 2L were non turbo). If it fine but I would not want anything slower. I can put a car behind it and it doesn't get much slower...it has torque!. The 2L non turbo diesels were great too, many around my parents house with 600k miles a local construction firm had a dozen of them on the road (still 6 left from 1984!)

[greggearhead]

Check out www.pirate4x4.com - in the bulletain board section, under toyota pickups/4-runners, there was a guy that did the conversion.  It was more for rock-crawling than daily-ddriving, but apparently the performance was pretty good.  

I have had an 83 Toyota on 35" tires, living at 6500-8500ft altitude, with a stock, old 22R carbureted engine that made around 90-100 sea level hp, probably.  A well-done, mildly modded 1.6TD or 1.9TD would likely make that much power, and more torque than an old 22R/RE, especially at altitude.  Better mileage and off-raod performance are perks.

[zooky]

Hmmm, may have to rethink this. The 4wd would probally be a dog, the 2wd is alot smaller, that may be a better option. I will have to do more research, maybe find a stock samurai. QuickTD hit the nail on the head, I am a intrepid mechanic at an airport, we are getting our own fuel farm and will have two 10,000 tanks to sump daily, being the company man that I am, I would hate to see the owner have to pay the disposal fees for perfectally good fuel...

[zyewdall]

I just bought a 1981 longbed 2wd toyota pickup with the 1L engine in it -- 2.2L NA, rated at 72HP, and 105ft lbs I think.  I'll let you know how slow it is...   :wink:   Actually, I don't really care.  It's a diesel at least.   It's got a perfect rust free body with shiny paint still, and will make a good run-around-town truck for the business.

On the swap issue, I've heard of people putting Mercedes 300TD or 240D engines in toyota 4wd pickups.  Really heavy engine, but built incredibly solidly, and apparently a bit smoother running and more powerful (for the 300TD at least) than the 2LT.

[zooky]

I'm working on it....

[andy2]

Nice work Zooky,That volvo IC looks like it was made for that truck.

[zooky]

yea, its a pretty good fit, I also used the Volvo radiator and electric fan. Plumbing it is going to be a pain

[LeeG]

What tranny and adapter?