Author Topic: 16v 2.0 PD TDI (Read 7464 times)

TDForNow · « **on:** April 23, 2006, 07:31:44 pm »

How different are these compared to our 8v's here in NA? Are they cross-flow heads :twisted: ?

DVST8R · « **Reply #1 on:** April 23, 2006, 09:06:35 pm »

Very.

Yes.

TDForNow · « **Reply #2 on:** April 23, 2006, 09:19:47 pm »

Quote from: DVST8R

Very.

Yes.

"Wife..... your wagon will NEVER be the same again!!!" :twisted:

Are the short blocks the same? What else besides the head and intake is different?

DVST8R · « **Reply #3 on:** April 24, 2006, 08:33:08 pm »

As far as I know everything on that motor is differnt form the 1.9tdi, heads, block, crank, rods, pistons, injectors, ect... possibly it might share an alternator or somthing like that, but from my research the internals are completely unique to that motor. Though I have heard that it may share its rods and crank with the 2L 8v tdi found in NA passats, but I can't find any supporting evidence to confirm.

TDForNow · « **Reply #4 on:** April 25, 2006, 03:11:47 am »

Oh, I know they're different from the 1.9's, I was wondering how different, besides the head and intake, they are from the 2.0 PD?

DVST8R · « **Reply #5 on:** April 25, 2006, 09:10:30 pm »

possibly rods and crank, nothing else that I have heard.

TDForNow · « **Reply #6 on:** April 29, 2006, 05:43:37 am »

Anyone had a chance to look one over yet?

TDIMeister · « **Reply #7 on:** May 07, 2006, 03:32:49 am »

The 2.0s (both the NA 8V and European 16V) also have balance shafts.

TDForNow · « **Reply #8 on:** May 07, 2006, 03:49:06 am »

What I'm trying to find out is if the short blocks are interchangable? Can we here in NA make our 8v's into 16v's by swapping top end components? What else would it involve?

TDIMeister · « **Reply #9 on:** May 07, 2006, 04:09:13 am »

Short answer, no. The head bolt locations are different as are the oil and coolant channels.

TDForNow · « **Reply #10 on:** May 07, 2006, 04:13:47 am »

I guess that means the wife's wagon is safe...... for now :twisted: .
I wonder what it'll take to get a whole motor across the pond?

TDIMeister · « **Reply #11 on:** May 07, 2006, 04:29:15 am »

Should be pretty easy; these engines have been in the market now for a year or two, but the real exciting one is the newest 2.0 16V TDI with piezo-injectors that make 170HP stock. :shock:

You would need all the electronics, including a throttle-by-wire pedal cluster, ECU and complete vehicle harness, but it's do-able. Don't even try to do an M-TDI of that engine!

TDForNow · « **Reply #12 on:** May 07, 2006, 01:25:14 pm »

Thanks TDIMeister for the info. Where I had hoped for interchangability, VW surprises me with the lack of it. I was thinking of the benefits of 4 valves per cyl in a cross-flow head

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Wow, an M-TDI PD........ way beyond my capabilities!! But possible though if you could find someone to make mechanical PD injectors that would operate ok, but by the time all of that money had been spent, One could have bought a euro-spec piezo equipped car, shipped it stateside, modified it and fought all the legal battles to keep it here (and it still wouldn't run as good) :shock: :shock: :shock: .

I think piezo equipped cars are in the future here, ULSD IS in the system now, at least with the company I haul for. Just a matter of time untill the retail sites come into "spec". That would be cool, 170HP would an even better place to start :twisted: .
Alain

dubCanuck1 · « **Reply #13 on:** May 07, 2006, 03:36:16 pm »

Anyone know where I can find a picture of this engine? 170HP stock sounds like it just made my short list for future swap projects......

MrDave · « **Reply #14 on:** May 18, 2006, 03:39:14 pm »

Quote from: TDIMeister

Short answer, no. The head bolt locations are different as are the oil and coolant channels.

I find the head bolt comment hard to believe.
VW on the I-4 engines, VW hasn't changed cylinder spacing or headbolt locations in 30 years. Oil and coolant passages have changed shape, and sometimes additional passages have been added, but that's all basically stayed the same as well.

-Dave