pics of dem total seal rings

[hillfolk'r]

here they are,modified by total seal from stock rings. since they dont make them for tdi's in their stock,,they said the vw rings were excellent quality,just as good as they could do or better,,,,,they phosphate coated them too,for initial break in. they will do 1.6's also,,it cost me 115 for 5 ring sets to be modified,and a can of quickseat dry lube,and ring land lube,nice,, blowby is minimal,,since i added balance tube its even better!!i dont get any oil out the breather, heck i dont even see smoke/steam,,it smells bad still,though,,, its vented to atmosphere,, i hope these pics are ok,,theylooked okto me:)

[andy2]

I,ve got the total seal's complete gapless "ring set" in my engine(AAZ) yet to run.

PN#S9205 20,hopefully they will hold up :roll:,Along with crane cam's gasser valve springs, they are almost double the pressure of stock dual diesel springs,gotta keep them valves closed with all that boost,Fingers crossed :lol:

[hillfolk'r]

dude, if you do the break in right,and use their lube,,its golden!!! you will be diggin the no blowby thing,,,,you feel  air out of the breather, but its more like a gentle breeze(aah,,,) than an ol'puffer, ,ive never had a valve spring issue,but the compression is awesome,,,i cant really "bump" the key,,itll start instead :cry: yea right

[fspGTD]

Very cool pics... however, let's please use the FAQ section only for posting answers to frequently asked questions.  Moved to TDI engine performance enhancement section.

[hillfolk'r]

ok sorry jake,,,i think every time i redo an engine ever again  for myself,ill use total seal  even on my lawnmower! :shock:

[fspGTD]

Are those total seal top rings or middle rings shown there, by the way?

[hillfolk'r]

Are those total seal top rings or middle rings shown there, by the way?

top compressionring is the gapless one

[jtanguay]

where can I get some of these rings???!!!  If I were to bore my block .50 what size rings should I order???  how much $$$ am I looking at?

ok I found the site (not hard) http://www.totalseal.com/

lots of sizes... which ones should I get?  Much different between the diamond/gold total seal rings?

[andy2]

I wonder what is the better setup with total seal?

Gapless top groove that Hillfolk'r has or gapless second groove that I have,Anyone?

[hillfolk'r]

I wonder what is the better setup with total seal?

Gapless top groove that Hillfolk'r has or gapless second groove that I have,Anyone?

they told me that the top gapless is "the latest/greatest",you dont run a topand bottom gapless,only one or the other,,,just run them,,yo,,they need your finished bore size,to make them,,,,i got a tdi,,i foung oem rings for about 20 a set,i bought 5 sets,1 for an extra,in case if breakage/damage,,,then i sent them to totalseal,and they charged me 115 to do 5 sets,and that included the dry film borelube,and ring land lube,sofor less than rings from the dealer,you got a way cool setup,,i found geotze rings is the oem supplier,dont chince on rings,they are chrome steel,not junk cast crap,,,,get the good stuff

[hillfolk'r]

call them,,i talked w/kevin in sales,over a year ago,i sent him a stock set out of my engine that were used,after he examined them,he said "can you get oem rings?",the reason i had stock rings modified was cause he said they(totalseal) didnt make rings as nice as oem vw ,,mine was the gunea pig ,,r+d took a few months, he was mainly worried about chipping the crome off when machining would occur,but all went well,,,and  im very pleased, they were way cool about the whole thing,even though i was bugging them once a week :wink:

[935racer]

Why cant you run two gapless rings? I gotta get some of these rings here, I keep hearing they are the ***.

[andy2]

The top Gapless ring that you have is custom made to fit from what I've read on the site as with all gapless top rings only.

The gapless "2nd" ring set I have is made specifically for the AAZ/and mabye tdi as well,I;m not sure if the IZ/AHU uses the same rings.Anyhow the ringset are available in STD,20 over.Just plop them in.You can also get conventional ringset from them too(ie. not gapless).

Just look at the catalog in thier website,you'll see.

[hillfolk'r]

i know you would think 2 gapless setup  would be better,,,they told me,but i forgot the reason why,,it may have been something about no gas pressure to force the 2nd ring  against the wall, if the top one is gapless...someday,illhave to rig up a leakdown tester to it,,a dude at work has a garden tractor he uses for pulling events,has them(total seal) in there for 3 or 4 seasons,and gets like 2-4 percent leakdown......andy2 up above,you got it!!!the wierd thing was the total seal guy was real impressed with the stock rings and said"we cant make em any better"...he got freaked out when i told him engine specs,,when i said 35 psi or more of boost,,,,thats when he said "we gotta make you a gapless top set"i know i got way less blowby..and its gotta give power,,and you cant bump the key,it starts so easy :wink:

[scopefrfd]

How are you making out with the total seal rings??   Any oil control issues and have you done a compression test yet??