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October 02, 2015, 05:47:17 pm

camboscams

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Holset install
« on: October 02, 2015, 05:47:17 pm »
I just bought a HE200WG this week! So I'm gathering parts for my install and as soon as my t25 manifold comes from Germany I should have everything I need. With my plans to go mtdi in the future I think this will work well for that too. I will update with a few pictures and my first impressions once it is running. Looking forward to this as I have had my eye on one of these for awhile. Wouldn't know anything about these turbos if it weren't for alcaid and the others that have done installs and provided such great feedback.

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Cambo
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72' Ford F-250 390cid
2014 JSW 2.0L TDI Stg 2, CP3 HPFP

Reply #1October 02, 2015, 08:37:50 pm

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« Reply #1 on: October 02, 2015, 08:37:50 pm »
Take lots of pictures. I'll be installing one eventually and itd be great to have an idea of what's involved in the install!

Reply #2October 03, 2015, 11:06:30 am

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« Reply #2 on: October 03, 2015, 11:06:30 am »
You bet, i plan to reuse/modify my VNT-15 downpipe to work with the holset. So other than the charge piping it should be an easy install.

I have been battling with the idea of modifying my intake manifold and welding an air to water intercooler inline  but i haven't quite made my mind up...

If i don't modify the intake manifold to have a built in water to air intercooler i like the simplicity of the location on idgtd's install.

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2014 JSW 2.0L TDI Stg 2, CP3 HPFP

Reply #3October 03, 2015, 02:31:09 pm

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« Reply #3 on: October 03, 2015, 02:31:09 pm »
I did the 221w which is similar to the 200. Nothing really fancy, just lots of work...if you are picky on the downpipe. I braced mine later and I would/should have done it from the start. I also did v band clamps and recommend doing that as I can take the pipe off in about 5 minutes and put it back on in the same amount of time. It takes a ton of marking and crawling under the car, if you don't have a lift, but well worth it. Make sure if you make an intake, which you should have to, make it so that you are not pulling the hot engine compartment air in.

Reply #4October 04, 2015, 07:25:52 am

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« Reply #4 on: October 04, 2015, 07:25:52 am »
These were the biggest challenges I had with the install:

1. The stock clocking of the HE200WG puts the compressor outlet downwards (i.e., towards the rear engine mount), vice pointing over the top of the valve cover as in a "normal" VW turbo install.  I made a bracket to offset the WG diaphragm by one tab but basically kept the compressor outlet facing down, using a silicone bend to redirect the flow towards the FMIC.

2. I'm using an 8V gasser intake manifold, and it's very, very tight fit with the turbo.  In fact, I had to add a 1/2" spacer between the exhaust manifold and turbo and grind a bit off the intake runners to have enough clearance between the turbo and intake manifold.  Getting to some of the intake manifold bolts is nearly impossible.  If/when I do another Holset installation on my daughter's rabbit, I will use a TD manifold vice a gasser one.

3. Fabricating a downpipe flange was a bit of a pain, but not too bad.  I went with a 2.5" V-band.

Good luck!  It's worth it.
'89 Jetta 1.6d HE200WG, ported solid lifter head, ARP studs, FMIC, 2.5" exhaust, lightened FW, ACT clutch
'79 Rabbit ABA swap, microsquirt
'91 Corrado 1.9L T3/T04e, ported 16v head, JE pistons, Scat rods, megasquirt, peloquin, E85, etc

Reply #5October 04, 2015, 08:49:30 am

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« Reply #5 on: October 04, 2015, 08:49:30 am »
These were the biggest challenges I had with the install:

1. The stock clocking of the HE200WG puts the compressor outlet downwards (i.e., towards the rear engine mount), vice pointing over the top of the valve cover as in a "normal" VW turbo install.  I made a bracket to offset the WG diaphragm by one tab but basically kept the compressor outlet facing down, using a silicone bend to redirect the flow towards the FMIC.

2. I'm using an 8V gasser intake manifold, and it's very, very tight fit with the turbo.  In fact, I had to add a 1/2" spacer between the exhaust manifold and turbo and grind a bit off the intake runners to have enough clearance between the turbo and intake manifold.  Getting to some of the intake manifold bolts is nearly impossible.  If/when I do another Holset installation on my daughter's rabbit, I will use a TD manifold vice a gasser one.

3. Fabricating a downpipe flange was a bit of a pain, but not too bad.  I went with a 2.5" V-band.

Good luck!  It's worth it.

Thanks, i plan to copy your bracketry design for relocating the wastegate actuator. I am already using a td intake so no issues with clearance. Yea i plan on working on some 3/8" plate with the plasma cutter to make my flange.   

@Theman, i just received my v band clamp and flanges so no worries there!!
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72' Ford F-250 390cid
2014 JSW 2.0L TDI Stg 2, CP3 HPFP

Reply #6October 04, 2015, 11:39:42 am

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« Reply #6 on: October 04, 2015, 11:39:42 am »
Think you could post some pics of your intake/turbo setup jmad? If any you may have taken of how you modified everything to fit? I have the same intake and also plan to run the 200wg.

Reply #7October 04, 2015, 01:25:43 pm

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« Reply #7 on: October 04, 2015, 01:25:43 pm »
^^^^ Interested as well, i also have been throwing the idea of using a na1.6L intake manifold as the air to water intercooler housing as it is already closer in size to a usable core.
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Reply #8October 05, 2015, 10:12:07 am

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« Reply #8 on: October 05, 2015, 10:12:07 am »
Here are some pics.  Intake manifold is from a Corrado G60.


'89 Jetta 1.6d HE200WG, ported solid lifter head, ARP studs, FMIC, 2.5" exhaust, lightened FW, ACT clutch
'79 Rabbit ABA swap, microsquirt
'91 Corrado 1.9L T3/T04e, ported 16v head, JE pistons, Scat rods, megasquirt, peloquin, E85, etc

Reply #9October 05, 2015, 12:12:47 pm

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« Reply #9 on: October 05, 2015, 12:12:47 pm »
Cool that doesn't look too difficult. I'm using the engine in a samurai and have a lot of room below. Thanks for the pic.

Reply #10October 05, 2015, 07:27:29 pm

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« Reply #10 on: October 05, 2015, 07:27:29 pm »
Should be getting my manifold this week as well as one of these beauties!

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72' Ford F-250 390cid
2014 JSW 2.0L TDI Stg 2, CP3 HPFP

Reply #11October 05, 2015, 08:12:33 pm

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« Reply #11 on: October 05, 2015, 08:12:33 pm »
I would build something for your hot air intake.

Reply #12October 06, 2015, 08:30:12 am

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« Reply #12 on: October 06, 2015, 08:30:12 am »
I would build something for your hot air intake.

Yeah, the air filter location was an afterthought at best, lol.  We've had plans to relocate it but haven't gotten around to that yet. 
'89 Jetta 1.6d HE200WG, ported solid lifter head, ARP studs, FMIC, 2.5" exhaust, lightened FW, ACT clutch
'79 Rabbit ABA swap, microsquirt
'91 Corrado 1.9L T3/T04e, ported 16v head, JE pistons, Scat rods, megasquirt, peloquin, E85, etc

Reply #13October 06, 2015, 10:07:39 am

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« Reply #13 on: October 06, 2015, 10:07:39 am »
The airbox and intake hose from RunninWild's for sale thread would fix up that hot air intake right quick.

Reply #14October 07, 2015, 09:39:17 am

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« Reply #14 on: October 07, 2015, 09:39:17 am »
Maddock,
Could you possibly get a picture from the bottom. I would like to see the intercooler tube and wastegate set up.

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