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June 09, 2015, 03:22:17 pm

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Doing clutch on 92 Jetta & have questionsrr
« on: June 09, 2015, 03:22:17 pm »
I am waiting for rest of the parts to come in like flywheel and pressure plate bolts and seals that I may need.


I did a transmission swaps a few years ago and remember the oil filter was hanging up on the cross member when I lowered the engine to get the tranny out. The Bentley does not say to remove the oil filter. For those who have done a MK2 Jetta clutch, did you remove the oil filter or is there a trick not removing it? I'd prefer not having oil drip on me while I am under the car.

CRSMP5 (haven't seen him post in a while) says it is much easier to get the tranny out if you remove the passenger side axle flange first. I did that when I did the tranny swap but prefer not doing extra work which requires extra parts and may cause complications. Is it really difficult to get the tranny out leaving the flange on?



Reply #1June 09, 2015, 03:45:35 pm

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Re: Doing clutch on 92 Jetta & have questionsrr
« Reply #1 on: June 09, 2015, 03:45:35 pm »
i never removed the flange even when i did my mk4.  it does make it harder though because u cant just come straight off the engine u have to turn the diff end of the transmission up to get the flange around the flywheel.  it's not very hard though, nothing to worry about.
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Reply #2June 10, 2015, 08:52:30 am

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Re: Doing clutch on 92 Jetta & have questionsrr
« Reply #2 on: June 10, 2015, 08:52:30 am »
Thanks! Anyone with answers on the oil filter?

Reply #3June 10, 2015, 12:26:45 pm

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Re: Doing clutch on 92 Jetta & have questionsrr
« Reply #3 on: June 10, 2015, 12:26:45 pm »
What does common sense tell you?
Remove the oil filter ahead of time and simply wrap a rag around the flange to catch the drips. If you are worried about the oil in the pan, remove it and catch it in a clean container and put back in later.

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Reply #4June 15, 2015, 10:01:04 pm

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Re: Doing clutch on 92 Jetta & have questionsrr
« Reply #4 on: June 15, 2015, 10:01:04 pm »
I have everything disconnected except one transmission top bolt. Is this low enough to get the tranny out?  Please describe the sequence I need to perform to bench press it out after removing the last bolt.

Reply #5June 16, 2015, 01:34:04 am

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Re: Doing clutch on 92 Jetta & have questionsrr
« Reply #5 on: June 16, 2015, 01:34:04 am »
Just pull it away from the engine to pull the input shaft out of the clutch, lower away.
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Reply #6June 16, 2015, 07:13:31 am

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« Reply #6 on: June 16, 2015, 07:13:31 am »
i would not use scissor jacks like that
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Reply #7June 16, 2015, 08:10:34 am

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Re: Doing clutch on 92 Jetta & have questionsrr
« Reply #7 on: June 16, 2015, 08:10:34 am »
i would not use scissor jacks like that

Care to explain why? I actually had a floor jack under there at first, but decided that scissors jacks the less likely to fail, I'm using two of them. What can go wrong?

Reply #8June 16, 2015, 09:39:39 am

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Re: Doing clutch on 92 Jetta & have questionsrr
« Reply #8 on: June 16, 2015, 09:39:39 am »
The little jacks are tippy.

If you can rent/borrow/buy a tranny jack or atv/motorcycle lift you won't drop a tranny on your hand.

https://dl.dropbox.com/s/hlmv5yog9wlpx5m/20140924_114311.jpg

Reply #9June 16, 2015, 10:01:52 am

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Re: Doing clutch on 92 Jetta & have questionsrr
« Reply #9 on: June 16, 2015, 10:01:52 am »
The little jacks are tippy.

If you can rent/borrow/buy a tranny jack or atv/motorcycle lift you won't drop a tranny on your hand.

https://dl.dropbox.com/s/hlmv5yog9wlpx5m/20140924_114311.jpg

Agree scissor jacks are not ideal, that's why I have 2 to make it less tippy. Right now it is supported only by the disconnected right engine mount and the 2 scissor jacks and I am not entirely comfortable laying underneath yanking on the tranny.  Before doing so, I will back it up with a 4x4 spanning the fender with hook/ ropes through the engine lift points.

How do you maneuver the tranny with a big transmission jack like that? From what I have read, you have to rotate the diff and tilt the tranny at the same time. Supposedly, bench pressing by feel is the only way. This is the first time bench pressing it out for me so I'll see how it goes. How heavy is the tranny? My guess about 60 lbs.

Reply #10June 16, 2015, 10:42:58 am

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« Reply #10 on: June 16, 2015, 10:42:58 am »
The ATV jack has wheels, rotating the tranny to clear the flange is slightly tricky, but doable.

The AOP tranny here weighs 77lbs.

Reply #11June 16, 2015, 10:46:38 am

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Re: Doing clutch on 92 Jetta & have questionsrr
« Reply #11 on: June 16, 2015, 10:46:38 am »
The ATV jack has wheels, rotating the tranny to clear the flange is slightly tricky, but doable.

The AOP tranny here weighs 77lbs.

Have you tried bench pressing it out (and in)? Or went with the ATV jack exclusively? I am leaving the flange on.

Reply #12June 16, 2015, 10:52:47 am

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« Reply #12 on: June 16, 2015, 10:52:47 am »
Never tried the bench press. I last used an engine hoist and atv jack.

On further reflection, slings on the tranny might be a reasonable method, particularly if they are on a pipe at the same angle as the drivetrain (higher on the engine side). That could allow rotating the tranny in the slings and pulling away from the engine.

The goal being staying co-axial with the crank axis.
« Last Edit: June 16, 2015, 11:00:32 am by TylerDurden »

Reply #13June 16, 2015, 11:52:50 am

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Re: Doing clutch on 92 Jetta & have questionsrr
« Reply #13 on: June 16, 2015, 11:52:50 am »
It's really not that heavy. I was able to throw my blown out 020 off my trailer in to the scrap metal pile.

Not very far mind you...
Bryn

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Reply #14June 16, 2015, 02:07:10 pm

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Re: Doing clutch on 92 Jetta & have questionsrr
« Reply #14 on: June 16, 2015, 02:07:10 pm »
In my scrap pile found this heavy duty turnbuckle with bolted jaw ends and some square tubing that's perfect for making this engine hanging hoist. What's nice is that it is micro adjustable, unlike the HF hoist I borrowed last time this was big/ clumsy with a come along that was difficult to adjust. Good idea strapping the tranny. I will hang it from the hoist with a rope that I can tension from below in case I need to escape or get a rest.



I will leave a scissor jack under the engine as a backup in case my hoist fails.



 

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